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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 1:50 pm 
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All -- I'm looking for this great old thesis that was done in the 1960's dealing with civilian experiences with high performance fighters. Mostly an accident analysis. Does anyone have a copy of this and if so could I trouble you to help me get a copy? Thanks much in advance. Jim Beasley


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You probably have it already, but there was a good article in about 1968 or 1969 in Air Progress (probably written by Mike Dillon) called something like: "So You'd Like To Fly A Fighter Plane? - Or... Death in a Beautiful Package". I think the author referenced this paper you are looking for.

I'm at work and the magazine is at home. I've always wanted to see the P-39/P-63 write-ups mentioned in that work. If you find a copy can you send me scans of those?

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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 2:09 pm 
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Lowell -- pm sent. thanks

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You probably have it already, but there was a good article in about 1968 or 1969 in Air Progress (probably written by Mike Dillon) called something like: "So You'd Like To Fly A Fighter Plane? - Or... Death in a Beautiful Package". I think the author referenced this paper you are looking for.

I'm at work and the magazine is at home. I've always wanted to see the P-39/P-63 write-ups mentioned in that work. If you find a copy can you send me scans of those?

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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 2:12 pm 
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I know for a fact that someone here has that, as there was a thread posted about it where someone had scanned either part of it or all of it here - I can't remember. FWIW, our WIXer Dudley Henriques was a civilian who flew Mustangs in the 60's and probably has a copy, or knows where to get one. I'm sure he'll be along shortly to comment on this.


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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 2:56 pm 
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Jim I think this is what you are looking for http://www.warbirddepot.com/library/saf ... report.pdf it takes a little while to load. :shock:

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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 3:00 pm 
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that's it! thanks

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Jim I think this is what you are looking for http://www.warbirddepot.com/library/saf ... report.pdf it takes a little while to load. :shock:

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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 3:03 pm 
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Jim Beasley wrote:
that's it! thanks

Robbie Stuart wrote:
Jim I think this is what you are looking for http://www.warbirddepot.com/library/saf ... report.pdf it takes a little while to load. :shock:

Regards
Robbie 8)


No problem. Dudley brought this to our attention back some time ago. 8)

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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 6:52 pm 
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Jim,

I plugged in an old scanner I had at home and so here are the cover and first few ages of th September 1968 Mike Dillon Air Progress article. More to come......


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These scans are not turning out too good I see. I can try again at work tomorrow.

Here is the rest...

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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:36 pm 
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Yup....... Read that one when I was a little kid... If I was at home, I have a copy sittting on my desk.

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Does anybody know what became of that upside down Mustang on the first page of this article?

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The upside down P-51 is most likely N6345T

http://www.mustangsmustangs.com/p-51/su ... l/44-63507

I'd guess the picture was taken after the 1968 wreck.....

I looked at it when it was getting rebuilt at Pioneer Aero in Jan 1996 in Chino.... Looked good then....

After the 1997 crash, there was probably not much left beyond the dataplate.... I assume its still in the Peters family.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 2:29 pm 
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Peters 51 was not the real 44-63507. Only the paperwork!

The Mustang in the photos is 44-63507.

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Hey Jim...will send a Facebook message w my email...I have the study from the early 60s on civilian p51 accidents..

It's one of those things that once u start reading it you can't put it down...so of the private pilots that bought p51 s did absolutely incompetent things...

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wow...read about N1451D in that file, the guy was flying a P-51 with his 3yo on his lap, wide and two kids in the rear fuselage!


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