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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 12:44 pm 
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An unique Bf-109 project was unveiled yesterday. Have a look here:

http://www.meiermotors.com/de/news.html (German language only)

or here:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/MeierMot ... 9400376090 (FB-site, in English)


will be the only 109 2-seater (G-12) worldwide!

Thanks for the info and pics to Matthias Dorst, webmaster MeierMotors.

Enjoy,

Michael


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:38 pm 
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Interesting project. However, from what I have read, the visibility from the rear (instructor's) position in the G-12 was less than optimal. I believe one instructor said "I was scared s&itless" when describing having to make a certain number of flights in it.

I have always thought that the HA 1112-M4L (2 seat trainer) that is with Connie Edwards would make a desirable asset to the training of Me-109 (and variants) pilots; it has a large greenhouse, and the Merlin must be a lot less expensive to operate that the DB 605.

At any rate very cool project, they now have quite a few Me109's in their stable!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:33 pm 
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Thanks Michael, I saw your post on key forum as well.

This project got me to thinking.

I would imagine, that the number of people that would be considered skilled enough to fly one of these aircraft, as well as foot the bill to build it, could be counted on one hand. This way, whom ever is paying for this project will at least get to fly in it!

No doubt it will look spectacular when finished. Best of luck to all.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:12 pm 
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Add my thanks as well Michael. Fascinating array of projects happening over there!

And sign me up for a back seat ride.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:52 pm 
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I think the instructor sits in the back seat. :shock:
Either way, I can't imagine any of us would say no to a flight.
Triangle P, you are absolutely correct. This is the only way us mere mortals could ever hope to fly behind a DB605 :wink:

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So basically apart from Dolfo taking Stanford Tuck for a ride in the two seat buchon no ones been in a two seat 109 since the CS-199 Messeschmitt Me 109 G-12
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:04 am 
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TriangleP wrote:
DH82EH wrote:
...I would imagine, that the number of people that would be considered skilled enough to fly one of these aircraft, as well as foot the bill to build it, could be counted on one hand. This way, whom ever is paying for this project will at least get to fly in it!...

Andy Scott

...or a more cynical person could say that having a second seat could provide an additional revenue stream to support the operation of the aircraft, in training more 109 pilots and joy rides for fans of the 109. Collings Foundation P-51C comes to my mind, which has a second seat. I think its a great way for people with the means to experience and enjoy learning about these iconic aircraft while supporting the overall outreach program that the CF does so well.


@TriangleP: Of course, but there is even more to it. The owner, Air Fighter Academy / Hangar 10 (Heringsdorf / Germany) does have quite a lot of planes of WWII aera, but even more interesting than the mere aircraft is their concept. They want to show by their flying exhibits how (fighter) pilots proceeded in the 1930ies to ´40ies in 4 different countries. US planes are: Stearman, AT-6, TF-51, (and there was the P-51 D BBD destroyed at Duxford Airshow), and a Piper Cub. British ones are: Tiger Moth, Spitfire Tr.9 (no single seater at the moment). Russians are: Po-2, Yak 9. German ones are: Bücker Jungmann, Bücker Jungmeister, the (to be converted from their Buchon) Bf-109 G-12, and the (to be finished) G-6. You get the idea?
Though the Spitfire Tr.9 is for sale (maybe due to the other {Bf-109} projects [my guess]), they for sure follow a red line with their collection.

BTW, they are offering an event in May, providing the opportunity to get rides in their TF-51 and Spitfire Tr.9.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater

German language article only.

Michael

P.S.: For anybody interested in the event, I forgot to mention the price: 20 mins. flight 1500 €, (including use of an apartment 1 night / 2 person half-board during the time mentioned)


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:38 am 
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Always wondered where do they find the DB605's for these planes? No one can seem to find the BMW radials for the Fw-190s currently flying since they are using American or Russian engines.


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