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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 3:51 pm 
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Here's something interesting (or not) depending on if you like this kind of stuff, regarding the childhood location of the US Navy's 9th highest scoring ace Lt Charles R. Stimpson, VF-11 Sundowners (one of dad's old outfits) who had 16.33 confirmed kills.

I guess I could chalk it up as a small world thing perhaps. Never the less I do find it ironic and interesting so perhaps a few others will as well. It's one thing to live in the same State, City or town as someone you view as interesting and have somewhat of a connection to, but quite another when you find out you lived two doors away. Abiet my time at my address there and his time were seperated by a couple of decades, it's still quite a coincidence.
A big thanks goes out to WIXers Jim MacDonald and Jack Cook for sending me some real outstanding stuff that also brought this information to my attention. Thanks a lot both of you.

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VF-11 pilots in the ready room aboard the USS Hornet, Stimpson third row from the front and dad sitting in the back.

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My address was 109 Rametto Rd, Santa Barbara, CA (left red box) Stimpson's was 1 Rametto Rd (right red box), If I recall the numbers on Rametto Rd are kind of funky. I'm quite certain that's 1 Rametto Rd. If not he was very close by as Rametto is not a large road at all. Rametto Rd is on a hillside that overlooks the Monecito CC and out to the ocean. If he grew up in that area there's a good chance he and his buddies rummaged around in my old place as it was a guest quarters of a much larger estate at that time (late 1920's early 1930's) and quite the playground for kids. You never know.

A Biography on Stimpson from Acepilots.com:

One of only four Navy fliers to "make ace" in both the Wildcat and Hellcat

Born in Salt Lake City on Aug. 24, 1919, Charlie Stimpson grew up in Santa Barbara, California, and graduated from Pomona College. He completed Navy flight training in June, 1942, and was assigned to the newly established VF-11 "Sundowners" at San Diego. They arrived at Guadalcanal in April, 1943, by which time Stimpson was a Lt.(jg). In only three combat missions in the Solomons, Stimpson scored six confirmed victories in Wildcats, four coming on June 16, his first combat mission when the Japanese staged their last big raid on Guadalcanal. Flying a Hellcat with the carrier Hornet's VF-11, Lt. Stimpson, nicknamed "Skull" because of his emaciated appearance, scored 5 kills on October 14, 1944, during the big raids on Formosa. Stimpson was one of eight Hellcats under the leadership of Lt. Jimmy Savage, assigned to the Hornet's CAP. They took off and climbed to 20,000 feet. Shortly after detecting the enemy, Lt. Savage discovered a defective compass; Stimpson took over the lead role. Stimpson's division went after the fighters; Savage's for the bombers. Stimpson's division surprised the enemy; all four of them (Stimpson, his wingman Blair, Dayhoff, and Zink) all scored on the first pass. Stimpson quickly brought down another two Hamps, as did Zink, but this time the Japanese struck back, downing both Dayhoff and Zink. Savage's division had also been cut up. Very quickly only Stimpson, Blair, and Savage remained in the battle. Stimpson intercepted a Zero threatening a wounded pilot; his deflection shot caught the Zero perfectly. It exploded for Stimpson's fourth victory of the day. He scored one more kill that day, but not without the loss of his wingman Blair.

Stimpson had another big day on Nov.5, getting three kills over Manila's Clark Field.

He finished with war with 16.33 confirmed kills.

A brief Wiki Biography on Stimpson:

Charles R. Stimpson (24 August 1919 - 20 August 1983

Born in Salt Lake City, Utah, Stimpson graduated from Pomona College in 1941 and enlisted in the navy as an aviation cadet. He received his commission and aviator wings in May 1942 and was assigned to Fighting Squadron 11, which became known as The Sundowners.

Flying Grumman F4F-4 Wildcats from Guadalcanal in the summer of 1943, "Skull" Stimpson shot down six Japanese aircraft. He remained with the squadron during its second combat deployment, flying F6F-5 Hellcats from USS Hornet (CV-12) in the Western Pacific during late 1944. He scored ten more kills, including five confirmed and two probables off Formosa on 14 October.

At the end of the war Stimpson was the Sundowners' top ace with 16 victories, receiving the Navy Cross, three Distinguished Flying Crosses, and three Air Medals.

Released from active duty in October 1945, Stimpson participated in the naval reserve program until 1956. He settled in the San Diego area, having married into the hotel business. He was widely known as the genial, popular host of The Inn at Rancho Santa Fe, but maintained his interest in aviation. He died at a Blue Angels performance at NAS Miramar shortly before his 64th birthday.



Top Navy Aces

David McCampbell 34.0 MH VF-15 F6F
Cecil E. Harris 24.0 NC VF-18 F6F
Eugene Valencia 23.0 NC VF-9 F6F
Alexander Vraciu 19.0 NC VF-6/VF-16 F6F
Cornelius N. Nooy 19.0 NC VF-31 F6F
Patrick D. Fleming 19.0 NC VF-80 F6F
Douglas Baker 16.3 SS VF-20 F6F
Ira Cassius "Ike" Kepford 16.0 NC VF-17 F4U
Charles R. Stimpson 16.0 NC VF-11 F4F/F6F
Arthur R. Hawkins 14.0 NC VF-31 F6F
John L. Wirth 14.0 NC VF-31 F6F
Lt. Elbert McCuskey 13.5 NC VF-3/VF-42/VF-8 F4F/F6F
George C. Duncan 13.5 - VF-15 F6F
Roy W. Rushing 13.0 - VF-15 F6F
John R. Strane 13.0 - VF-15 F6F
Dan R. Rehm 13.0 AM VF-8/VF-50 F6F
Wendell V. Twelves 13.0 - VF-15 F6F
James A. Shirley 12.5 - VF-27 F6F
Daniel A. Carmichael Jr. 12.0 - VF-2/VBF-12 F6F
Roger R. Hedrick 12.0 DFC VF-17/VF-84 F4U
William J. Masoner Jr. 12.0 - VF-19/VF-11 F6F
Hamilton McWhorter III 12.0 - VF-9/VF-12 F6F
P. L. Kirkwood 12.0 - VF-10 F4U/F6F

Other Noted Navy Aces

Frederick E. Bakutis 11.0 - VF-20 F6F
John T. "Tom" Blackburn 11.0 NC VF-17 F4U
James B. French 11.0 - VF-9 F6F
William A. Dean, Jr. 11.0 - VF-2 F6F
Donald E. Runyon 11.0 NC VF-6 F4F
Stanley W. "Swede" Vejtasa 10.3 NC VF-10 F4F
Charles Mallory 10.0 DFC VF-18 F6F
Harris A. Mitchell 10.0 - VF-9 F6F
Whitey Feightner 9.0 - VF-10/VF-8 F4F/F6F
Arthur Van Haren, Jr. 9.0 DFC VF-2 F6F
Ralph E. Elliott 9.0 - VC-27 FM-2
Butch Voris 8.0 DFC VF-2 F6F
Edward "Butch" O'Hare 7.0 MH VF-3 F4F
Bert DeWayne "Wayne" Morris 7.0 DFC VF-15 F6F

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:12 pm 
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Neat story and great photos.
As always Mark, I thank you.

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Charlie ran "The Inn" at Rancho Santa Fee with his wife for many
years and was a true gentleman and friend.

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You forgot to list Lieutenant (jg) George Raines Carr who was awarded a Navy Cross. Had 11.5 kills flying Hellcats with VF-15. Earned his Wings with the RCAF before transferring over to the USN.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:59 pm 
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TOM WALSH wrote:
You forgot to list Lieutenant (jg) George Raines Carr who was awarded a Navy Cross. Had 11.5 kills flying Hellcats with VF-15. Earned his Wings with the RCAF before transferring over to the USN.

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That list came from the acepilots.com website listed above. I'm sure there are more than Carr missing from the list.
Jack I contacted the management at "The Inn" and I'm going to go pay a visit with a few things for them. Seems they have some photos of Charles framed at the Inn. If in fact this is true it's certainly a class act thing for them to do to honor the man. Anything that respectfully commemorates the service of any and all veterans I'm completely for. I hope to see a nicely detailed tribute to Charles at the Inn. He earned it for sure.

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Charlie not Charles! :wink:

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I never met him so I'm not fortunate enough to be able to call him Charlie, how about "Skull" :wink:

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:27 pm 
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Mark,

Very very neat! Chances are, if he was in RSF, he probably met/knew my great uncle, who lived there from about the 60's to when he died in 2007.

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Absolutely!! I'm sure they probably met several times. If they didn't, they should have. Your great uncle and Mr. Stimpson were class acts for sure. It's always nice to sit back and read good things being said about the vets. They all earned it in my book.

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I really really enjoy hearing stories from vets. Being a history buff helps, but when you hear more and more stories, you gain a better appreciation for what servicemen and women went through in that respective time era, IMHO.


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Good stuff!!

Just for grins....was their a list of USMC aces or do they fall in with the Navy?


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:23 am 
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Here's the USMC list from the same website as above. I'm sure there's some missing here too.

Robert Murray Hanson 25.0 Top Corsair ace KIA Feb '44, New Ireland MH 2 w/ VMF-214 23 with -215 all in F4U
Donald N. Aldrich 20.0 first enlisted in RCAF NC VMF-215 F4U
Stuart C. Alley Jr. 5.0 - DFC VMF-323 F4U
George C. Axtell 6.0 CO, ace in a day 4/22/45 NC VMF-323 F4U
Robert Baird 6.0 only USMC night fighter ace NC VMF(N)-533 F6F
Robert M. Baker 7.0 - DFC VMF-121 F4U
Donald Luther Balch 5.0 2 in Solomons
3 from Bunker Hill DFC VMF-221 F4U
Frank B. Baldwin 5.0 - DFC VMF-221 F4U
Harold W. Bauer 11.0 KIA, C.O. MH VMF-212 F4F
John F. Bolt Jr. 6.0 Black Sheep, also 6 in Korea NC VMF-214 F4U
Gregory Boyington 22.0 C.O. Black Sheep Sqn. POW Jan '44 MH VMF-214 F4U
Richard Lane Braun 5.0 - DFC VMF-215 F4U
William P. Brown Jr. 7.0 - NC VMF-311 F4U
Marion Eugene Carl 18.5 at Midway with VMF-221, first USMC ace NC VMF-223 16.5 in F4F2 in F4U
William A. Carlton 5.0 - DFC VMF-212 F4U
William Northrop Case 8.0 Black Sheep DFC VMF-214 F4U
Dean Caswell 7.0 - SS VMF-221 F4U
Creighton Chandler 6.0 - DFC VMF-215 F4U
Arthur Roger Conant 6.0 betw. Aug. 43 - Jan. 44 DFC VMF-215 F4U
Jack E. Conger 10.0 TDY with VMF-223 NC VMF-212 F4F
William E. Crowe 7.0 - NC VMF-124 F4U
James N. Cupp 13.0 - NC VMF-213 F4U
Leonard K. Davis 5.0 Guadalcanal, C.O. NC VMF-121 F4F
Philip Cunliffe De Long 11.2 between Jan.-Feb, 44 SS VMF-212 F4U
Jefferson J. DeBlanc 9.0 5 kills, then bailed out MH VMF-112 F4F
Joseph V. Dillard 6.3 - SS VMF-323 F4U
Eugene Dillow 6.0 - DFC VMF-221 F4U
John Francis Dobbin 8.0 Evac 10/16/42 NC VMF-224 F4F
Archie Glenn Donahue 14.0 Twice ace in a day NC VMF-112 VMF-451 2 in F4F 12 in F4U
Jefferson D. Dorroh 6.0 XO, ace in a day 4/22/45 NC VMF-323 F4U
Cecil J. Doyle 5.0 MIA Nov '42 NC VMF-121 F4F
Charles W. Drake 5.0 - NC VMF-323 F4U
Frank C. Drury 6.0 TDY with VMF-223 NC VMF-212 F4F
Dewey F. Durnford 6.3 - DFC VMF-323 F4U
Hugh McJ. Elwood 5.2 - DSC VMF-212 F4U
Loren D. Everton 12.0 10 on TDY with VMF-223 NC VMF-212 10 in F4F 2 in F4U
William Farrell 5.0 - NC VMF-312 F4U
Howard J. Finn 6.0 - DFC VMF-124 F4U
Don Horns Fisher 6.0 Black Sheep DFC VMF-214 F4U
Paul John Fontana 5.0 - NC VMF-112 F4F
Kenneth M. Ford 5.0 - DFC VMF-121 F4U
Joseph Jacob Foss 26.0 active for 3 months, X.O. MH VMF-121 F4F
Robert B. Fraser 6.0 See Porter's book DFC VMF-112 F4F?
Kenneth D. Frazier 12.5 Evac 10/12/42 NC VMF-223 F4F
William B. Freeman 6.0 - DFC VMF-121 F4F
Robert E. Galer 13.0 C.O., 11 kills in 29 days MH VMF-224 F4F
Fred E. Gutt 8.0 - DFC VMF-223 4 in F4F 4 in F4U
Roger A. Haberman 7.0 Guadalcanal, Wildcat NC VMF-121 F4F
Albert C. Hacking 5.0 - DFC VMF-221 F4U
Sheldon O. Hall 6.0 - AM VMF-213 F4U
Henry B. Hamilton 7.0 KIA, TDY with VMF-223 NC VMF-212 F4F
Herman Hansen Jr. 5.5 C.O. of sqn? NC VMF-122 F4U
Edwin James Hernan Jr. 8.0 - DFC VMF-215 F4U
George L. Hollowell 8.0 Evac 10/16/42 DFC VMF-224 F4U
William L. Hood 5.5 - DFC VMF-323 F4U
John C. Hundley 6.0 - DFC VMF-211 F4U
Julius W. Ireland 5.3 all in Jan. 44 DFC VMF-211 F4U
Alvin J. Jensen 7.0 Swashbuckler NC VMF-214 2 in F4F 5 in F4U
Charles David Jones 6.0 - SS VMF-222 F4U
Charles Kendrick 5.0 KIA 10/2/42 DFC VMF-223 F4F
Floyd C. Kirkpatrick 5.5 3 on Okinawa DFC VMF-441 F4U
Charles M. Kunz 8.0 Evac 10/16/42 NC VMF-224 F4F
Wayne W. Laird 5.0 - - VMF-112 F4F
Gregory. K. Loesch 8.5 KIA Sept. '43 NC VMF-121 F4F
Herbert H. Long 10.0 - LM VMF-121 3 in F4F 7 in F4U
Joseph P. Lynch 5.5 - DFC VMF-112/155/224 3.5 in F4F 2 in F4U
John B. Maas Jr. 5.5 - DFC VMF-112/322 3 in F4F 2.5 in F4U
Christopher L. Magee 9.0 Black Sheep NC VMF-214 F4U
Thomas H. Mann Jr. 10.0 TDY with VMF-224 NC VMF-121 F4F
William P. Marontate 13.0 KIA Jan. '43 NC VMF-121 F4F
H. Allen McCartney Jr. 5.0 Black Sheep LM 4 w/ VMF-251/121 1 with VMF-214 1 in F4F 4 in F4U
Robert W. McClurg 7.0 Black Sheep DFC VMF-214 F4U
Selva E. McGinty 5.0 3 on Okinawa DFC VMF-441 F4U
John McManus 6.0 - SS VMF-212 F4U
John L. Morgan Jr. 8.5 - DFC VMF-213 F4U
Paul A. Mullen 6.5 Black Sheep DFC 1.5 with VMF-122 5 with VMF-214 F4U
Joseph L. Narr 8.0 - NC VMF-121 F4F
Jeremiah J. O'Keefe 7.0 ace in a day 4/22/45 NC VMF-323 F4U
Edwin L. Olander 5.0 Black Sheep DFC VMF-214 F4U
Edmund F. Overend 8.3 5.3 Ki-21 bombers 3 with USMC DFC AVG VMF-321 5.3 in P-40 3 in F4U
Donald C. Owen 5.0 2.5 in F4U, Not Cactus? DFC VMF-212/112 F4U/?
Robert G. Owens Jr. 7.0 C.O. of 215, all kills betw. Aug.43 - Jan. 44 NC VMF-215 F4U
Frederick R. Payne 7.5 TDY with VMF-223 NC VMF-212 F4F
Gilbert Percy 6.0 - NC VMF-112 5 in F4F 1 in F4U
Hyde Phillips 5.0 - DFC VMF-223 F4F
Francis E. Pierce Jr. 6.0 NC story in Hammel NC VMF-212 5 in F4F 1 in F4U
Jack Pittman Jr. 7.0 3 in F4U SS VMF-221 F4U/?
Zenneth A. Pond 6.0 KIA 9/10/42 NC VMF-223 F4F
Robert Bruce Porter 5.0 only Marine aviator to score kills in both Corsair and Hellcat NC VMF-121 VMF(N)-542 3 in F4U 2 in F6F
George H. Poske 5.0 - DFC VMF-212/215 F4U
Nathan T. Post 8.0 5 in F4U LM VMF-221 F4U/?
Ernest A. Powell 5.0 4 in F4U NC VMF-122 F4U/?
Frank H. Presley 6.0 - NC VMF-121 F4U?
Orvin H. Ramlo 5.0 - NC VMF-223 F4F
J. Hunter Reinburg 7.0 4 in F4U SS VMF-121 F4F/F4U
John W. Ruhsam 7.0 - NC VMF-323 F4U
Donald H. Sapp 11.0 10 kills? NC VMF-222 F4U
Hartwell V. Scarborough 5.0 Swashbuckler DFC VMF-214 1 in F4F 4 in F4U
Robert Byron See 5.0 - DFC VMF-321 F4U
Harold E. Segal 12.0 fished out of Pacific DFC VMF-221 F4U
Edward O. Shaw 13.0 14.5 kills? DFC VMF-213 F4U
Perry L. Shuman 6.0 - LM VMF-121 F4U
Wallace E. Sigler 5.3 4.33 in F4U DFC VMF-112/124 F4F/F4U
John L. Smith 19.0 all in 7 weeks, C.O. MH VMF-223 F4F
William N. Snider 11.5 8.5 in F4U SS VMF-221 F4U/?
Harold L. Spears 15.0 - DFC VMF-215 F4U
Robert F. Stout 6.0 TDY with VMF-224 NC VMF-212 F4F
James E. Swett 15.5 7 Vals on 7Apr43 MH VMF-221 7 in F4F 8.5 in F4U
Stanley T. "Chief" Synar 5.0 - DFC VMF-112 VMF-214 2 in F4F 3 in F4U
Francis A. Terrill 6.1 - DFC VMF-323 F4U
Franklin C. Thomas Jr. 9.0 - NC VMF-112? F4F
Wilbur J. Thomas 18.5 4 Zeroes on Jun 30 '44; 2 from Essex in Feb. 45 NC VMF-213 F4U
Eugene A. Trowbridge 12.0 Evac 9/14/42 NC VMF-223 F4F
Herbert J. Valentine 6.0 - NC VMF-312 F4U
Milton N. Vedder 6.0 4 in Corsair DFC VMF-213 F4U
Robert Wade 7.0 - NC VMF-323 F4U
Kenneth A. Walsh 21.0 Solomons, first Corsair ace MH VMF-124 F4U
Arthur T. Warner 8.0 - NC VMF-215 F4U
Gregory J. Weissenberger 5.0 C.O. ; all kills June - July 43 DFC VMF-213 F4U
Albert P. Wells 5.0 - DFC VMF-323 F4U
Gerard M.H. Williams 7.0 - DFC VMF-215 F4U
Donald K. Yost 8.0 VMF-121 in late '42 VMF-351 in mid '45 SS VMF-121 VMF-351 6 in F4F 2 in F4U
Michael R. Yunck 5.0 2 in F4U SS VMF-311 F4U/?

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Donald C. Owen 5.0 2.5 in F4U, Not Cactus? DFC VMF-212/112 F4U/?

The ace pilots site has a lot of errors. Has an example they screwed up my cousin Don's entry.
Should be Donald C. Owen 5.0/2.5 in F4U & 2.5 in F4F. G-Canal 1942. 4 DFCs VMF-121/111/112 MIA

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Aldrich's kills (20), were all against Japanese fighters. He was the fifth highest scoring Marine Ace of WW II. Could not get into the pre-war American Military as he was married. Earning his Wings in the RCAF, he served a year as an Instructor Pilot prior to transferring to the Corps.

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