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 Post subject: Boneyard museum photos
PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:59 am 
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Various photos from boneyard and museum with a focus on RAF, RAAF and US aircraft


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:24 am 
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You should also reference the photographer. Just so you don't seem to be stealing someone else's website to get some brownie points for showing it.

Anyone can post links.
index.php

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:04 am 
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Again? Brownie points for sniping?

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:24 am 
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Whoo.....didn't realize posting links was stealing. Funny...everyone does it. I call bs.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:38 pm 
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Looks like you acquired a stalker Liberator!


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:03 pm 
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Phantom wrote:
You should also reference the photographer. Just so you don't seem to be stealing someone else's website to get some brownie points for showing it.



4 posts and already he's slamming people. Just like his post in this P-43 thread,

http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=48140


He ought to put in to become a moderator.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:59 pm 
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Is Phantom soneone who was just banned?

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:27 pm 
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I was flattered that Liberator liked my posting enough to link it here. Thanks Liberator! Those photos were taken on an almost perfect day in Tucson.

The museum's P-39 is making progress and the KB-50 is looking good.

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Look to Clifford to make peace! :P Great pics Clifford!

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:16 am 
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The Phantom is right: Photographers should be credited. If photog's name is not available, then whatever source for the photo that is known. Every photo that we acquire or download should have this provenance included, as otherwise information associated with this photo is lost. Without this information, the photo cannot be published.

This is professional behavior, and if you are not doing this then you are not serious about preserving the needed information that allows a better understanding of aviation history. To put up a photo without a source is to claim that you personally took the photo. It is a kind of dishonesty know as plagiarism.

Phantom - Welcome to our crowd. Some of us are glad to have you here!

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:42 am 
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Okay, I'll bite.

In CRM, as well as conversation, I've coined what I call the "Meatloaf Principle". Imagine two statements, both using identical words.

In the first, a man says, "Honey, you know I love your meatloaf." He smiles, nods his head and is sincere. :D

In the second, a man says, "Honey, you know I love your meatloaf." He speaks with a sarcastic tone and rolls his eyes. :roll: Later, when he's accused of being an ogre, he shrugs and replies, "I don't know what went wrong, I told her I loved her meatloaf". Truth is, any of us would call BS on him.

I'll admit, from watching these forums, Liberator has acquired a questionable reputation by some. In this case, though, he posted a link, as many of us have done, I fail to see the big deal. Could he have fluffed his original statement and said, "Here is a link to some boneyard photos I found". I suppose. I'd prefer the share to never knowing the link existed.

Here is the problem, Phantom chimes in and it doesn't take much of the Meatloaf Principle to pick up on the message when the words "stealing", "brownie points", and "Anyone can ... see" make up his comment. So, were his words technically correct - yes. Was his delivery style unnecessary? IMHO, yes.

A low number of posts doesn't disqualify someone's opinion, but that sort of delivery does.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:54 pm 
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4 posts and already he's slamming people. Just like his post in this P-43 thread,


Funny, I had the same thought when I saw his P-43 post.


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old iron wrote:
The Phantom is right: Photographers should be credited. If photog's name is not available, then whatever source for the photo that is known. Every photo that we acquire or download should have this provenance included, as otherwise information associated with this photo is lost. Without this information, the photo cannot be published.

This is professional behavior, and if you are not doing this then you are not serious about preserving the needed information that allows a better understanding of aviation history. To put up a photo without a source is to claim that you personally took the photo. It is a kind of dishonesty know as plagiarism.

Phantom - Welcome to our crowd. Some of us are glad to have you here!


No photos were posted, only a link. All the photos at the link are properly credited. Do I really need to give credit when posting a link to some photos? Good grief, I may post a link to a web site with thousands of photos by hundreds of different photographers. Do I need to give credit for every photographer who is on the site when I post the link? C'mon, really?


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:20 pm 
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Lets calm down :)

Phantom, keep this up and you WILL get banned!

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:04 pm 
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Nathan wrote:
Whoo.....didn't realize posting links was stealing. Funny...everyone does it. I call bs.



LMAO...Go Nathan :drink3:

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