Opinion of Value

Cherrybomber13 · **Posted:** Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:06 pm

We are doing an aircraft audit at the museum, looking at "what if we had to replace it with a similar airframe" hypothetical threat (that barn fire in Saskatchewan spurred the conversation) I am looking for some opinions of value on the static airframes. I am not looking for appraisals just ball park numbers to see if we are thinking in the same stadium since we acquired most of these birds a decade ago. Please feel free to PM me with your thoughts. Thanks in advance.

Our Collection is static only and includes a:
Goodyear FG-1D Corsair - Under restoration 95% complete
T-38 Talon (Complete except Engine and gauges)
T-37 Tweet (Complete except Engine and gauges)
T-33 Shooting Star (Complete except Engine and gauges)
Cessna 0-2A Skymaster
1973 Cessna 150
Bell 47: Complete except bubble
Sikorsky S-52
Sikorsky H-19 Complete Ran 10 years ago
Sikorsky H-34D Vietnam Combat time on the Kitty Hawk
Sikorsky S-60 - One of a kind prototype, Igor's last personal project - 90% complete Undergoing full restoration
Hiller OH-23 Raven
Christen Eagle II

In addition we have a T-53 Working Cutaway, Several P&W 1300 series radials and a few 975's all with no logs but in very clean condition.

Photos can be found at http://www.flickr.com/photos/cherrybomb13/sets/72157627900756113/

Ken · **Posted:** Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:54 am

Slightly off topic, but having seen the number of T-37 and T-38 airframes now at AMARC (in configurations no longer flown by the USAF) I have to believe that, with the right help, you guys should be able to replace all of your missing gauges ... which would increase your value.

Any chance the NMUSAF Curator or even a local Congressman might help grease the skids for you guys? Seems like all you would need is about two days' access to AMARC and a toolbox. Crate up the goodies and ship them home; minimal funds expended. Might even be able to get a one-time discount from FedEx in exchange for advertising placed by the airframe.

I can't imagine that parts from one airframe each would be missed ... and the gov't would be helping your museum. I assume it's more of a "who you know" problem than a "what you know".

Ken

famvburg · **Joined:** Fri Oct 07, 2005 9:41 am **Posts:** 540

How do you place a value on a one-of-a-kind helo like the S-60? I believe the radials you mentioned, based on the displacements, are Wrights, not P&W. Some of the a/c you list are probably not worth more than the scrap value.

Cherrybomber13 wrote:

We are doing an aircraft audit at the museum, looking at "what if we had to replace it with a similar airframe" hypothetical threat (that barn fire in Saskatchewan spurred the conversation) I am looking for some opinions of value on the static airframes. I am not looking for appraisals just ball park numbers to see if we are thinking in the same stadium since we acquired most of these birds a decade ago. Please feel free to PM me with your thoughts. Thanks in advance.

Our Collection is static only and includes a:
Goodyear FG-1D Corsair - Under restoration 95% complete
T-38 Talon (Complete except Engine and gauges)
T-37 Tweet (Complete except Engine and gauges)
T-33 Shooting Star (Complete except Engine and gauges)
Cessna 0-2A Skymaster
1973 Cessna 150
Bell 47: Complete except bubble
Sikorsky S-52
Sikorsky H-19 Complete Ran 10 years ago
Sikorsky H-34D Vietnam Combat time on the Kitty Hawk
Sikorsky S-60 - One of a kind prototype, Igor's last personal project - 90% complete Undergoing full restoration
Hiller OH-23 Raven
Christen Eagle II

In addition we have a T-53 Working Cutaway, Several P&W 1300 series radials and a few 975's all with no logs but in very clean condition.

Photos can be found at http://www.flickr.com/photos/cherrybomb13/sets/72157627900756113/

Cherrybomber13 · **Posted:** Sun Oct 07, 2012 12:37 pm

P&W 1340's.As we learn on pawn stars sentimental value ain't worth much.
The S-60 is an unusual piece of history.

famvburg · **Joined:** Fri Oct 07, 2005 9:41 am **Posts:** 540

And P&W 985s then?

bdk · **Joined:** Sun May 02, 2004 1:16 am **Posts:** 11328

A P&W core is worth about $10-12K right now I think.

Chunks · **Joined:** Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:02 am **Posts:** 361

Quote:

A P&W core is worth about $10-12K right now I think.

About right if you guarantee the crank, $8500 if you don't...

Chunks

Cherrybomber13 · **Posted:** Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:21 pm

Thanks Appreciate the help everyone.
BDK - Those numbers match what we were estimating.

oscardeuce · **Joined:** Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:34 am **Posts:** 1021

More info on the O2-A
Airworthy?
Hours on airframe, engine, props, AD's

Cherrybomber13 · **Posted:** Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:22 pm

02-A is on loan from the USMC. We are cleaning it up for display. Was one of 4 airframes used to train the initial F-18 squadrons

robkamm · **Posted:** Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:05 pm

10k for a good r985 core? WOW!

oscardeuce · **Joined:** Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:34 am **Posts:** 1021

O2-A would be $50,000 to 65,000 to replace with a flier. You plane is worth the scrap and cost of getting and moving in a new one from Uncle Sam. That's around $10,000-$15,000

marine air · **Posted:** Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:38 am

Corsair $450-750k. Would have to be inspected and appraised to be worth more.
T-37, $90k.
T-33, $10k.
O-2A, $25k, if it's all there.
C-150, $5-8K. totally depends on engine condition.
Bell 47, $25k. FLiers start at $75k now.
H-19, $25k , wold have to be complete and ready to display.
H-34D, $5-$25k, totally deoends on completeness and airworthiness of parts
S-60, $10-$100k. A buyer would have to want it's technology to reverse engineer.
Cristen Eagle- $18k. depens on how long it's been sitting, and airworthiness.
R-975's, $2,000 core value.

whistlingdeath77 · **Posted:** Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:54 am

warbird kid.....priceless :lol:

Warbird Kid · **Posted:** Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:41 pm

whistlingdeathcorsairs wrote:

warbird kid.....priceless :lol:

What? What did I do!?

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