MiG-21 over ran the runway today at FCM...

Warbirdnerd · **Joined:** Fri Apr 30, 2004 7:34 pm **Posts:** 2923

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EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. (WCCO) — A pilot suffered minor injuries Thursday morning when his fighter jet overshot the runway at Flying Cloud Airport in Eden Prairie, and ended up near Flying Cloud Drive.

The Federal Aviation Administration reported a privately-owned Russian MiG fighter jet was attempting a landing at the airport, but overshot the runway. Crews said that the plane slid through the fence at the airport.

Pat Hogan, spokesman for the Metropolitan Airports Commission, says the pilot was flying in for this weekend’s AirExpo event.

“The aircraft landed, but continued to roll past the runway, and ended up stopping on Flying Cloud Drive,” Hogan said.

He says the airport remains closed because the MiG lands with the assistance of a parachute, and that parachute is still on the airfield. Hogan says the FAA is on scene to investigate.

The pilot was treated for minor injuries. No other injuries were reported

Found it here:
http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2012/07/1 ... n-prairie/

RickH · **Posted:** Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:08 pm

5000 ft runway ? REALLY, for a Mig 21 ? Ridiculous !

Sabremech · **Posted:** Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:19 pm

These news stations are killing me! "Fighter jet crashes at Eden Prairie?" I guess it's impossible to educate the media since they know it all that this was a landing incident!

Stephan Wilkinson · **Joined:** Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:23 am **Posts:** 699

Well, calling it a "crash" might be overdoing it a bit, but let's be fair, it's hardly just "a landing incident."

51fixer · **Posted:** Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:21 pm

Stephan Wilkinson wrote:

Well, calling it a "crash" might be overdoing it a bit, but let's be fair, it's hardly just "a landing incident."

That is probably what the FAA will classify it as, an incident.
I wonder if that is the area Bob Ponds FG-1D flipped over when it failed to stop after aborting a takeoff and went threw the fence onto a road.
That was a long time ago now. 1985?

Warbirdnerd · **Joined:** Fri Apr 30, 2004 7:34 pm **Posts:** 2923

51fixer wrote:

Stephan Wilkinson wrote:

Well, calling it a "crash" might be overdoing it a bit, but let's be fair, it's hardly just "a landing incident."

That is probably what the FAA will classify it as, an incident.
I wonder if that is the area Bob Ponds FG-1D flipped over when it failed to stop after aborting a takeoff and went threw the fence onto a road.
That was a long time ago now. 1985?

Mr Pond's FG-1D flipped at Crystal Airport, FCM is a litte south of there. Rich were you part of the group that fixed her and put the seat in back?

51fixer · **Posted:** Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:27 pm

Warbirdnerd wrote:

51fixer wrote:

Stephan Wilkinson wrote:

Well, calling it a "crash" might be overdoing it a bit, but let's be fair, it's hardly just "a landing incident."

That is probably what the FAA will classify it as, an incident.
I wonder if that is the area Bob Ponds FG-1D flipped over when it failed to stop after aborting a takeoff and went threw the fence onto a road.
That was a long time ago now. 1985?

Mr Pond's FG-1D flipped at Crystal Airport, FCM is a litte south of there. Rich were you part of the group that fixed her and put the seat in back?

I was around Chino back then and remember when the fus came back from Yoaks place repaired IIRC. I didn't do much on it that I can remember.

Mr. Scott · **Joined:** Sat Nov 27, 2004 11:31 pm **Posts:** 50

For more photos see: http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/story/19010688/vintage-russian-fighter-jet-makes-crash-landing-in-eden-prairie

p51 · **Posted:** Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:54 pm

Boy, he's got some work to get her back in the air...

RickH wrote:

5000 ft runway ? REALLY, for a Mig 21 ? Ridiculous !

I saw one land (OCONUS) in I swear what looked like a couple of hundred feet (I saw it at an oblique angle, though). the pilot put her down in less room that a C-130 making a combat landing a minute later... These can land on a dime compared to more modern fast movers.

RickH · **Posted:** Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:07 pm

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These can land on a dime compared to more modern fast movers.

The Mig 21 comes over the fence about 200 kts, a drag chute is required for every landing, according to the book. I think the fast movers of today can land considerably shorter than a Mig 21. I know this particular aircraft well. It used to live just a few hangars down from us.

p51 · **Posted:** Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:40 pm

RickH wrote:

The Mig 21 comes over the fence about 200 kts, a drag chute is required for every landing, according to the book. I think the fast movers of today can land considerably shorter than a Mig 21.

All I know is I've seen Tornadoes and US/UK/NATO fast movers lay down a lot more rubber on a runway while landing than some of the 21s I've watched do tactical approaches. Maybe the NATO jocks I've seen were being far more conservative, but in comparison, I've seen various older MIGs and SUs stop with a quickness once the wheels started spinning...
But I was only an Army puke (and a ground-bound REMF at that), what the heck do I know?

astixjr · **Posted:** Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:27 pm

Good Landing = Pilot walked away :drink3:

JDK · **Posted:** Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:51 pm

Oh dear.

Regarding the differences between an 'incident' and 'crash', it's all very well us venting that it gets mis-reported and exaggerated, but it's semantics at the end of the day - For most people it's an 'accident', and any 'accident in aviation' = a crash.

Best way of avoiding the semantics or news scaremongering it not to have the incident at all... Easy to say, harder to do, and vital to be trying.

Regards,

54H60 · **Joined:** Fri Dec 25, 2009 3:07 pm **Posts:** 48

astixjr wrote:

Good Landing = Pilot walked away :drink3:

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Dan Johnson II · **Joined:** Tue May 04, 2004 1:49 am **Posts:** 659

Warbirdnerd wrote:

51fixer wrote:

Stephan Wilkinson wrote:

Well, calling it a "crash" might be overdoing it a bit, but let's be fair, it's hardly just "a landing incident."

That is probably what the FAA will classify it as, an incident.
I wonder if that is the area Bob Ponds FG-1D flipped over when it failed to stop after aborting a takeoff and went threw the fence onto a road.
That was a long time ago now. 1985?

Mr Pond's FG-1D flipped at Crystal Airport, FCM is a litte south of there. Rich were you part of the group that fixed her and put the seat in back?

That had to be in the late 70s. I was taking flying lessons as a teenager at Crystal when that happened. Crystal had a nice little batch of warbirds back then hanging out at Jack Sandberg's hanger.

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