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Tue Sep 21, 2004 12:49 am

Rob

Any date for the Pic ?

Dave

Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:33 am

A wartime photo not too long after the event. Don't think there is much if anything left.

Dan

Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:43 am

Dan

Thought as much, sixty years of salt water can't be good for it.... a few more worthwhile still on land and in some of the island lakes. The Dutch were after a ditched P-40 at one stage, don't know what progress on that. I have a pic of the canopy taken in the murky lake. Cees any update on that ?

Dave

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Tue Sep 21, 2004 7:53 am

theres tons of planes in png, pitty though it costs from 100 - 200 thousand dollars in bribes to recover and aircraft from there, for that price and for what you end up with your better building new.

i have located a b17 outside of png if anyones intrested though.

Re: B-17F Crash in PNG

Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:36 pm

It was nice to see the Ghost finally recovered. :D

Re: B-17F Crash in PNG

Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:40 pm

What others would you be referring to as being worth while on land? the two in Brazil? or the one at black-cat pass(gap) in png, or the two left under the Greenland ice cap. or are there others out there that could be recovered? i know there is some wreckage of a C model in a national forest, but we all know that wont get recovered because of the parks service. and not to forget all the planes still owned by the air force that sit outside and wither away. :( Though it is awesome to see the Belle, Swoose, and a few other of there stock getting some TLC. I would be interested to see what other aircraft are out there. though I couldn't ever do anything about, it is still interesting to know :)

Thanks, Travis

Re: B-17F Crash in PNG

Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:24 pm

Image

Credit: Sgt Henry Uhling Date: July 13, 1944

http://www.pacificwrecks.com/aircraft/b ... aison.html

http://www.pacificwrecks.com/aircraft/b ... 24550.html

Re: B-17F Crash in PNG

Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:29 pm

Interesting photo. Looks like Sgt Uhling was flying an L-5.

It would be interesting to see what if anything is left.


Chappie

Re: B-17F Crash in PNG

Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:38 pm

I think I found it on Google maps. If it had higher resolution on Google maps I'd be certain. If I'm looking in the right spot there's what looks like the silhouette of a b-17 wings and engines close to shore up in the corner of the map about 100 to 200 ft off shore. here's the lat and lon -9.487223, 147.243273 . Hope that helps. If someone else wants to take a second look. :) hope this helps. Travis

Re: B-17F Crash in PNG

Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:24 pm

Travisd80elcam wrote:I think I found it on Google maps. If it had higher resolution on Google maps I'd be certain. If I'm looking in the right spot there's what looks like the silhouette of a b-17 wings and engines close to shore up in the corner of the map about 100 to 200 ft off shore. here's the lat and lon -9.487223, 147.243273 . Hope that helps. If someone else wants to take a second look. :) hope this helps. Travis



mabe someone can take a screenshot pic and post it here? i would but i am on my cellphone right now. :drink3:

Re: B-17F Crash in PNG

Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:44 am

From farther out..,it does resemble an outline of an aircraft.., but when you zoom in.., it is just current.
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Re: B-17F Crash in PNG

Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:00 pm

The National Park Service could and has granted permission to people/organizations to recover aircraft within the parks property, with a whole lot of rules and regulations. Most aircraft that went down within park property has already been stripped of pieces and parts from "souvenir hunters". :drink3:

Re: B-17F Crash in PNG

Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:07 pm

yah.., not sure how the Parks Department in Papua New Guinea works?

Most likely not to well. :shock:

Re: Bootless Inlet PNG

Sat Dec 17, 2011 11:35 am

FWIW, Allen G. Blue's book "The B-24 Liberator", p.163 illustrates the wreck of a B-24D also laying in Bootless Inlet. The photo is dated July 13, 1944 and the aircraft appears to be laying in a similar depth of water as the B-17 illustrated above.

Re: B-17F Crash in PNG

Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:45 pm

Very unlikely that there is anything left of either plane. Locals probably scrapped what they could or the saltwater dissolved it. :(
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