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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:23 pm 
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As we approach the 57th anniversary of the "Battle of Palmdale (CA)" I thought I would post this summary of this famous (if not embarresing) encounter between F-89 Scorpions and a rogue USN F6F Hellcat over the skies of the Los Angeles basin. Many of you are no doubt familiar with this encounter but the story is always worth a historical chuckle. Enjoy.


On the morning of 16 August 1956, Navy personnel at NAS Point Mugu, CA prepared an F6F-5K for its final mission. The aircraft had been painted overall high-visibility red. Red and yellow camera pods were mounted on the wingtips. Radio remote control systems were checked, and the Hellcat took off at 11:34 a.m., climbing out over the Pacific Ocean . As ground controllers attempted to maneuver the drone toward the target area, it became apparent that it was not responding to radio commands. They had a runaway.
Ahead of the unguided drone lay thousands of square miles of ocean into which it could crash. Instead, the oldHellcat made a graceful climbing turn to the southeast, toward the city of Los Angeles . With the threat of a runaway aircraft approaching a major metropolitan area, the Navy called for help.
Five miles north of NAS Point Mugu, two F-89D Scorpion twin-jet interceptors of the 437th Fighter Interceptor Squadron were scrambled from Oxnard Air Force Base. The crews were ordered to shoot down the rogue drone before it could cause any harm. Armed with wingtip-mounted rocket pods and no cannon, the Scorpion was typical of the Cold War approach to countering the "Red Menace." Each pod contained 52 Mighty Mouse 2.75-inch rockets. Salvo-launched, the Mighty Mouse did not have to have precision guidance. Large numbers of rockets would be fired into approaching Soviet bomber formations to overwhelm them with sheer numbers. Today, they would be used against a different kind of red menace.
At Oxnard AFB, 1Lt. Hans Einstein and his radar observer, 1Lt. C. D. Murray, leapt into their sleek F-89D. Simultaneously, 1Lt. Richard Hurliman and 1Lt. Walter Hale climbed into a second aircraft. The interceptors roared south after their target. The hunt was on.
Einstein and Hurliman caught up with the Hellcat at 30,000 feet, northeast of Los Angeles . It turned southwest, crossing over the city, then headed northwest. As the Hellcat circled lazily over Santa Paula , the interceptor crews waited impatiently. As soon as it passed over an unpopulated area, they would fire their rockets.
The interceptor crews discussed the options. There were two methods of attack using the fire control system, from a wings level attitude or while in a turn. Since the drone was almost continuously turning, they selected the second mode of attack. In repeated attempts, the rockets failed to fire during these maneuvers. This was later traced to a design fault.
The drone turned northeast, passing Fillmore and Frazier Park. It appeared to be heading toward the sparsely populated western end of the Antelope Valley . Suddenly, it turned southeast toward Los Angeles again. Time seemed to be running out. Einstein and Hurliman decided to abandon the automatic modes, and fire manually. Although the aircraft had been delivered with gun sights, they had been removed a month earlier. After all, why would a pilot need a gun sight to fire unguided rockets with an automatic fire control system?

The interceptors made their first attack run as the Hellcat crossed the mountains near Castaic. Murray and Hale set their intervalometers to "ripple fire" the rockets in three salvos. The first crew lined up their target and fired, missing their target completely. The second interceptor unleashed a salvo that passed just below the drone. Rockets blazed through the sky and then plunged earthward to spark brush fires seven miles north of Castaic. They decimated 150 acres above the old Ridge Route near Bouquet Canyon .
A second salvo from the two jets also missed the drone, raining rockets near the town of Newhall . One bounced across the ground, leaving a string of fires in its wake between the Oak of the Golden Dream Park and the Placerita Canyon oilfield. The fires ignited several oil sumps and burned 100 acres of brush. For a while the blazes raged out of control, threatening the nearby Bermite Powder Company explosives plant. The rockets also ignited a fire in the vicinity of Soledad Canyon , west of Mt. Gleason , burning over 350 acres of heavy brush.
Meanwhile, the errant drone meandered north toward Palmdale. The Scorpion crews readjusted their intervalometers and each fired a final salvo, expending their remaining rockets. Again, the obsolete, unpiloted, unguided, unarmed, propeller-driven drone evaded the state-of-the-art jet interceptors. In all, the jet crews fired 208 rockets without scoring a single hit.
The afternoon calm was shattered as Mighty Mouse rockets fell on downtown Palmdale.
Edna Carlson was at home with her six-year-old son William when a chunk of shrapnel burst through her front window, bounced off the ceiling, pierced a wall, and finally came to rest in a pantry cupboard. Another fragment passed through J. R. Hingle's garage and home, nearly hitting Mrs. Lilly Willingham as she sat on the couch. A Leona Valley teenager, Larry Kempton, was driving west on Palmdale Boulevard with his mother in the passenger seat when a rocket exploded on the street in front of him. Fragments blew out his left front tire, and put numerous holes in the radiator, hood, windshield, and even the firewall. Miraculously, no one was injured by any of the falling rockets. Explosive Ordnance Disposal teams later recovered 13 duds in the vicinity of Palmdale. It took 500 firefighters two days to bring the brushfires under control.
Oblivious to the destruction in its wake, the drone passed over the town. Its engine sputtered and died as the fuel supply dwindled. The red Hellcatdescended in a loose spiral toward an unpopulated patch of desert eight miles east of Palmdale Airport . Just before impact, the drone sliced through a set of three Southern California Edison power lines along an unpaved section of Avenue P. The camera pod on the airplane's right wingtip dug into the sand while the Hellcat cart-wheeled and disintegrated. There was no fire.

Oxnard AFB was the sole Air Defense Command base established to protect the Los Angeles basin from incoming an Russian bomber offensive.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:53 pm 
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Cool story.Good ole F6F.I guess that was one of the first clues that interceptors needed guns which really became evident during Vietnam air combat.

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Where is the footage from the cameras? Was the wreck cleaned up?

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Holy crap...what a great story to pass the night with. Thanks! :drink3:


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The most underlying and disturbing issue is the fact that the ADC had a ring of bases around the USA all equipped with ROCKET FIRING aircraft ( F-86D Sabre, F-89 Scorpion and Lockheed F-94C Starfire). Fortunately gun and guided missle armed aircraft (e.g. F-101, F-102, F-104 et.al.) were beginning to appear in the ADC alert hangars within a few years following this incident.

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Cherrybomber13 wrote:
Where is the footage from the cameras? Was the wreck cleaned up?


These folks had a look at the crash site.
http://www.thexhunters.com/


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 3:35 pm 
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The most underlying and disturbing issue is the fact that the ADC had a ring of bases around the USA all equipped with ROCKET FIRING aircraft ( F-86D Sabre, F-89 Scorpion and Lockheed F-94C Starfire). Fortunately gun and guided missle armed aircraft (e.g. F-101, F-102, F-104 et.al.) were beginning to appear in the ADC alert hangars within a few years following this incident.


Actually it took a long time for significant numbers of air defense alert aircraft to be armed with cannons. The F-102 Delta Daggers and two Seat F-101B Voodoos were never equiped with guns or cannon, they strictly carried guided missiles or in the case of the F-102's intitially at least, some of the FFAR's in the missile bay doors. The F-104A's had a Vulcan 20mm cannon, but they were deployed in very limited numbers. The F-106 Delta Dart was armed with missiles only until 1972 when some where modified to carry a Vulcan 20mm cannon in the missile bay in lieu of some of the missiles. It was not until F-15's and later F-16's were in service in air defense roles that the Air Force/Air National Guard had significant numbers of aircraft with integrated guns in the role.


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Thanks Cubs, great site!

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Cherrybomber13 wrote:
Where is the footage from the cameras? Was the wreck cleaned up?


These folks had a look at the crash site.
http://www.thexhunters.com/

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soon another "anniversary" of a shoot down...

Even with guns a bit of a fiasco too...

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The date in question was 30 August 1955 and the excitement was caused by a runaway civilian Auster Archer J-4, which had taken off from Bankstown airport, without anyone at the controls. Apparently the pilot had dismounted to restart the engine by hand. One flick of the propeller - and away went the Auster down the runway and into the sky.

Needless to say the situation was causing the authorities some dismay. But one of the RAN Austers from Nowra was making its way to nearby Schofields aerodrome and the pilot, Commander J. Groves, offered to trail the runaway Auster, which was heading across town towards Sydney CBD. After watching the errant Auster for over an hour, the RAN Auster had to break-off from the chase as it had been airborne for more than three hours.

Meanwhile, with Sydney radio stations broadcasting minute-by-minute reports on the Auster's progress, the excitement on the ground was nearing fever-pitch. In a bold stroke the authorities called the RAAF who scrambled a Wirraway from Richmond airbase to shoot down the delinquent Auster.

By now the pilotless Auster had managed to fly across the city to Manly where it turned north towards Palm Beach. Flying into a steady breeze the Auster gained altitude - to around 9,000 ft. Here the air tends to be cold and as the gunner in the rear of the Wirraway was to find out, it was very cold. In fact so cold he was unable to change magazines on his Bren gun after his initial shots failed to stop the Auster.

With the Wirraway retiring from the scene, the RAAF sent two Meteor jet-fighters from Williamtown to intercept the Auster. Very soon the Meteors caught up with the troublesome Auster. However, because the Auster was only doing about 60 knots, the pilots found it difficult to position for a shot. Adding to the frustration the first Meteor’s guns jammed - having fired only a few rounds. And the second didn't shoot at all.

Meanwhile, at the RAN air-station at Nowra, south of Sydney, two Sea Fury aircraft had returned to base after firing rockets at Beecroft Range. The Sea Furies, from 805 squadron, were piloted by Lieutenants Peter McNay and John Bluett. Both of their aircraft were quickly loaded with 20mm ammunition and the pilots were told to fly to Sydney.

Flying north the two RAN Sea Furies arrived on the scene shortly after the RAAF Meteors broke-off their engagement. As a precaution, to ensure the Auster Archer was empty, McNay lowered his flaps and undercarriage, slowing his prop-driven Sea Fury - to check the cabin – as a report had been received that a schoolboy might be onboard.

Ensuring it was empty, McNay repositioned his Sea Fury behind the Auster, now flying at about 10,000 ft and some distance out to sea. McNay fired a short burst from his 20mm cannons - hitting the Auster and knocking it out of a turn. Bluett, in the other Sea Fury, then fired from a beam-on position, causing the Auster’s cockpit to burst into flames. Badly damaged the Auster nosed-down in a slow spiral. McNay followed with another burst from his cannons, sending the Auster crashing into the sea.

This was handy work on the part of the RAN pilots, not least because the navy Auster was nearby when the Auster Archer took-off from Bankstown. Pilotless from around 8.30 am the Auster was airborne for over three hours. When the Sea Furies arrived it was 11.35, by 11.42 the Auster was destroyed - hitting the ocean about five miles off the coast. The remarkable thing is the runaway Auster was airborne for so long - and fortunately not involved in a major accident.


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To be fair, I'm sure the rockets were designed (and set up) to bring down a larger, faster aircraft. Still, the FFARs and early AAMs were far from perfect.
Also, you have to give the crew a break, probably their first time firing live munitions (maybe a few at Yuma).

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The rocket/missile firing aircraft were primarily intened to go against the Tu-16 BADGER and Tu-95 BEAR Soviet bombers. Their fighters of the day simply did not have the range (excluding the Bering Straits) to reach the U.S.

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Old SAR pilot wrote:
The rocket/missile firing aircraft were primarily intened to go against the Tu-16 BADGER and Tu-95 BEAR Soviet bombers. Their fighters of the day simply did not have the range (excluding the Bering Straits) to reach the U.S.


I suspect the FFARs would have been far more effective against bombers. And the bombers that got through would then have to face batteries of Nike Ajax and Hercules missiles, some of the Hercs being nuclear tipped.

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Old SAR pilot wrote:
The rocket/missile firing aircraft were primarily intened to go against the Tu-16 BADGER and Tu-95 BEAR Soviet bombers. Their fighters of the day simply did not have the range (excluding the Bering Straits) to reach the U.S.


I think that was the assumption of the USAF/NORAD/RCAF all the time.
I've never heard of any plans to counter enemy fighters over the US/Canada. As I said in my earlier post, they were designed and optimized for bombers, FFARs would be a poor weapon against a fast moving and (presumably) nimble fighter.
Besides, in my limited knowledge of Soviet aircraft (hey, they didn't make it easy) I've never heard of a long range penetration/escort fighter. I know the USAF gave up after the F-101A didn't work out in that role.

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