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 Post subject: 1959 airshow 8mm stills
PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:50 pm 
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These are stills from a video transfer of 8mm home movies taken at the World Congress of Flight in Las Vegas in April, 1959. The quality isn't too great but here are some of the more interesting ones:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/C ... ap0492.bmp

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/C ... ap0495.bmp

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/C ... ap0499.bmp

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/C ... ap0503.bmp

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/C ... ap0511.bmp

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/C ... ap0515.bmp

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/C ... ap0520.bmp

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/C ... ap0524.bmp

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/C ... ap0526.bmp

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/C ... ap0540.bmp

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/C ... ap0543.bmp

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/C ... ap0546.bmp

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Oh cool! An inflatoplane!

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Are bitmap files impossible to show in a message? I used the Img tab as instructed but they won't show, so I posted them as links.

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It depends on the forum. I tried posting one of your images on four different forums and it worked only on one of them.

Again, cool stuff!


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Chris:

To post images at the WIX, you must first upload them to another
web-page and link them here.

I use photobucket, and works fine. For WIX posting, you should use the [Img . . . /img] command.

Since bitmaps are more "heavy" bytewise, why don't you convert your files to jpeg? They are the standard and seem to be easier to handle.

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Probably a good idea, as the pictures I sent of the Universal P-51D and the Hughes birds worked ok.

Also, "cap0526" of the Sabre is F-86F 52-5116, now known as N3145T. If you all want you can use it for the Registry at least until a better shot of it in service is found; it's the only frame that had the numbers readable!

Any ID on the four-engined Grumman Goose?

Also, note that the Lockheed Electra is making a low pass on one engine - in the film, he makes several passes shutting down an engine each time until only number four is running :shock:

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Chris Brame wrote:
Also, note that the Lockheed Electra is making a low pass on one engine - in the film, he makes several passes shutting down an engine each time until only number four is running :shock:

Holy smokes! Didn't notice that...

Four-engined Grumman Goose? The only other four-engined job I see is a Privateer firebomber...


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Loved the vulcan formation too! Anti-flash paint schemes too. These are some really interesting photos. Are they from a family film? Thanks very much for posting.

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oops - forgot to post that one:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/C ... ap0493.bmp

I got the film from an estate auction so I don't know the family; the airshow had a lot of aerobatics from the Thunderbirds, the Blue Angels, the Republic of China (Taiwan, nine Sabres) and a team (from Nellis?) that flew standard F-84Fs. Even better were the live fire demonstrations - rocket, machine gun and napalm attacks on mockup targets and drones (not close enough to see what the drones were, though).

A friend from the auction has promised me a reel of home movie film from an English airshow from 1956, so I'll keep after him to dig it out...

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That four engined Goose takes the cake! Perhaps it was an attempt to improve its STOL performance. Never heard of such a beast, but there is a peculiar Goose with tiltable wings/engines at the New England Air Museum. Perhaps this was from the same program... anyone out there know? Looks like good meat for an article in Flypast/Aeroplane if someone's got the details, and more photos.

Thanks again for posting the images!

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Chris Brame wrote:
Any ID on the four-engined Grumman Goose?


I know that this is really reaching back into the old posts, but I just came across this thread during an unrelated search. Unfortunately, the photo links are no longer valid, but even without seeing them, I can definitely identify the ONLY 4-engine Goose that existed in 1959.

The very first McKinnon G-21C (s/n 1201) was built between 1957 and 1958 and it was flying by the time period this thread references. It started off as Grumman JRF-6B c/n 1147, but McKinnon Enterprises Inc. of Sandy, OR completely rebuilt it, zero-timed it, and converted it to have four Lycoming GSO-480 engines of 340 hp each. Its gross weight also went up to 12,499 lbs. It was registered as N150M and it was issued a new data tag and airworthiness certificate on Nov. 7, 1958.

In 1960, however, McKinnon continued to "tinker" on it and he stretched the nose and added 4 seats and some windows up there. In that configuration, it was recertified as the one and only ever McKinnon G-21D and its serial number was changed once more to 1251. (Maybe that'd be a good trivia question; how many other aircraft have there been in which the same airframe carried three different manufacturer's unique model numbers and serial numbers?)

In any case, McKinnon still wasn't completely satisfied with it and he KEPT tinkering. Between 1964 and 1966, in conjunction with Alaska Coastal Airlines, McKinnon developed his turbine conversion for the G-21 series airframes. N150M (G-21D s/n 1251) had its four Lycoming piston engines removed and two PT6A-20 series turboprops of 550 shp installed. It also got some really funky Calderon flaps installed, too. It became the prototype and test bed for all of his subsequent turbine Goose conversions under STC SA1589WE and SA1320WE, and the true McKinnon Turbo Gooses under TC 4A24 (That list is shorter than most Goose people think; it was only G-21G s/n 1205 N77AQ, G-21E s/n 1211 N121H, and G-21G s/n 1226 N60AL - which later became N70AL.)

There was a second G-21C built in the mid-1960's. Grumman G-21A/JRF-5 c/n B-78 became N3459C and it was converted by McKinnon to be G-21C (w/ 4x Lyc. GSO-480's) s/n 1202. It went to Pakistan as AP-AUY and ended up in Bangladesh, after it split from Pakistan, where it remains today as S2-AAD.

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I just get a message saying "This image or video has been deleted" for all of them.


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Same here. Would sure like to see 'em, that was the year I was hatched.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:05 pm 
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Hi again,

I've been meaning to redo those those stills in better quality and size - let me see if I can do it when I get home tonight.

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vernicator wrote:
I just get a message saying "This image or video has been deleted" for all of them.



Me too.


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