Pa wrecks

Nathan · **Posted:** Sat Nov 28, 2009 10:08 pm

Having a frustrating time trying to search up data on aircraft crash sites in Pennsylvania. So figured I'd ask here if anyone knows of any wrecks in Pennsylvania?

Thanks,
Nathan

warbird1 · **Joined:** Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:25 pm **Posts:** 2760

The Col. is the man to ask, as he is the expert. He was previously banned for a while, but made a brief appearance to speak after Gary's passing. I don't know whether he is back here permanently or not.

RyanShort1 · **Posted:** Sat Nov 28, 2009 11:59 pm

warbird1 wrote:

The Col. is the man to ask, as he is the expert. He was previously banned for a while, but made a brief appearance to speak after Gary's passing. I don't know whether he is back here permanently or not.

I think he voluntarily returned to his ban from WIX - but he was grateful for the opportunity to speak up about the situation. He's still up to all kinds of stuff and can be reached via email.

Ryan

tom d. friedman · **Posted:** Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:03 am

nathan, the only significant wreck in pa is the b-25 which crashed in the monogahilla (however it's spelled) river in the 50's. from last i've heard it's junk. ohio has nothing other than lake erie & most of those wrecks are on the side with good beer. ohio is just to assed flat for wrecks!! i'd guess from 1 standpoint that's good!!

TonyM · **Posted:** Sun Nov 29, 2009 3:09 am

There were at least 28 fatal Army Air Forces accidents in Pennsylvania during WWII, involving a variety of airplanes. Detailed summaries of these accidents can be found in the three volume reference work FATAL ARMY AIR FORCES AVIATION ACCIDENTS IN THE UNITED STATES, 1941 -1945. There were many non-fatal accidents involving AAF airplanes in Pennsylvania during WWII. Try Craig Fuller's excellent AAF crash index at the AAIR website.

Tony M.

rreis · **Joined:** Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:42 pm **Posts:** 441

RyanShort1 wrote:

warbird1 wrote:

The Col. is the man to ask, as he is the expert. He was previously banned for a while, but made a brief appearance to speak after Gary's passing. I don't know whether he is back here permanently or not.

I think he voluntarily returned to his ban from WIX - but he was grateful for the opportunity to speak up about the situation. He's still up to all kinds of stuff and can be reached via email.

Ryan

what is his email? got something for him

TimAPNY · **Posted:** Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:13 pm

Wreck hunting is all about frustration! Just because you can't find info on the internet don't give up. The best sites are either very hard to get to or forgotten about. Most wreck chasers will not give clear directions to sites. Most of the sites I've been to have are well know internet sites, the one that is not is just referred to as "Somewhere in VT".

I'm sure there are lots of wrecksites to find in PA, but they are treasure hunts. Don't expect to find the site on the first try, It takes lots of research and time in the field. Be ready to tell yourself you are never doing this again only to do it again and again. Once it is in your blood it is hard to get ride of.

Tim

Nathan · **Posted:** Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:53 pm

Thanks all for trying to help me. I would like to learn on this subject.

To tell you all my thinking...I would possibly like to make a long term project and trying to find a few USAF wrecks and recovering what pieces are left. Doesn't really matter condition of the wreck. At this point I own nothing in terms of aircraft parts or warbirds and I always preach about hoping someone recovers this wreck or that wreck. So I am figuring I might as well try to see about doing it myself sometime.

Naturally I need to learn about all the red tape envolved about doing this. Would anyone here be able to help me with that or has any info on recovering USAF wrecks? :shock:

As for recovery-There is always the "strap em to my back", "drag em by a rope" routine. Is this too far stretched? Please someone tell me.

Thanks,
Nathan

warbird1 · **Joined:** Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:25 pm **Posts:** 2760

Nathan wrote:

Thanks all for trying to help me. I would like to learn on this subject.

To tell you all my thinking...I would possibly like to make a long term project and trying to find a few USAF wrecks and recovering what pieces are left. Doesn't really matter condition of the wreck. At this point I own nothing in terms of aircraft parts or warbirds and I always preach about hoping someone recovers this wreck or that wreck. So I am figuring I might as well try to see about doing it myself sometime.

Naturally I need to learn about all the red tape envolved about doing this. Would anyone here be able to help me with that or has any info on recovering USAF wrecks? :shock:

As for recovery-There is always the "strap em to my back", "drag em by a rope" routine. Is this too far stretched? Please someone tell me.

Thanks,
Nathan

You really need to contact Col. Rohr. He has 30 years experience doing this sort of thing, has done many recoveries, and knows all the ins and outs of dealing with red tape and the government. I don't have his e-mail address, but I know he has many friends here who can hook you up with him.

RyanShort1 · **Posted:** Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:49 pm

Nathan,

I occasionally get emails from Rob - including one today regarding your request here. PM me and I'll give you the contact info.

Ryan

mustangdriver · **Posted:** Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:25 pm

I did some research and interviews of the area and some people that where there the day the B-25 went into the Mon. River. Sure does't sound like it is still in there.

tom d. friedman · **Posted:** Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:43 am

i heard same chris. hey..... did i spell the river name correctly??

Woodsy Airfield · **Posted:** Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:30 am

Nathan - Have you thought about going to junk yards or using a postcard or e-mail sweep. Grab a map of Pennsylvania and do a county by county junk yard investigation. I know yards are hesitant to let you look, but you never know. Also, years ago using a Leslie Hunt edition, I sent postcards out and did receive some replies which led to useful info and some photos. This would be kind of old tech now, but via white/yellow pages from net, you might try e-mailing city governments for any info that they could provide on knowledge of any former displays or accidents. I'm sure area airfield personnel would be helpful. Put on your walking shoes.......Just some thoughts

Leon

mustangdriver · **Posted:** Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:11 am

Monongahela River is where the B-25 went int. Right above the Homestead High level Bridge.

N3Njeff · **Posted:** Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:04 am

TimAPNY wrote:

Wreck hunting is all about frustration! Just because you can't find info on the internet don't give up. The best sites are either very hard to get to or forgotten about. Most wreck chasers will not give clear directions to sites. Most of the sites I've been to have are well know internet sites, the one that is not is just referred to as "Somewhere in VT".

I'm sure there are lots of wrecksites to find in PA, but they are treasure hunts. Don't expect to find the site on the first try, It takes lots of research and time in the field. Be ready to tell yourself you are never doing this again only to do it again and again. Once it is in your blood it is hard to get ride of.

Tim

LOL, Diddent I give you the GPS cordinates to "somewhere in VT"

You should change that to "not done in VT" as we still have a B-24, B-17, B-29, B-47, B-52 for bombers and we got a few fighters

tho I dont know how much is left of the P-51 as my cousin hiked out alot of it and they were doing some logging in that area a few yrs ago.

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