Warbird Information Exchange

I was looking at Wikipedia's entry for the F-94 and saw their list of survivors.
Just for fun I did a few edits/updates/additions based on information from Baugher's site:
( http://www.coastcomp.com/av/pres/oldafjet.htm )
And Decker's site (which is new to me,) which attempts to chart the histories of every example of several early jets:
( http://www.millionmonkeytheater.com/F-94homepage.html )

Some questions...
-Do two Starfires survive in Minneapolis? (One at the MN ANG collection).
-Years ago I remember one in a Duluth park..where is it now?
-What happened to the early F-94A once displayed at the NMUSAF? There is a photo of it on Wiki and Decker says it's still there but I don't recall seeing it in my weekly visits to the museum when I was stationed at W-P.

-Other Starfires are listed as having been on display at Hempsted AFB, NY; Mechanicsberg, PA; Portland, Indiana; Middletown, PA; Correy, PA...
Are they still there...and are there any others you may know of?

Here's the list from Wiki..hopefully they won't mind me posting it to try to improve it...


The original YF-94A (s/n 48-0356) is on display at the Air Force Flight Test Center Museum at Edwards Air Force Base in California.
F-94A (49-2498) is on display at the National Museum of the United States Air Force at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base near Dayton, Ohio. It was transferred from active inventory to the Museum in May 1957.[3]
F-94A (49-2500) is on display at the Niagara Aerospace Museum in Niagara Falls, New York
F-94A (49-2517) is on display at the Burlington Air National Guard Base at Burlington International Airport in Burlington, Vermont. Formerly displayed at the Pima Air Museum in Tucson, Arizona
The YF-97/F-94C prototype (50-877), is on display at the Syracuse, New York airport.
A well-preserved F-94C (s/n 50-0980) has been on display for many years at the National Museum of the United States Air Force at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base near Dayton, Ohio.
F-94C (50-1006) is on display at the Peterson Air & Space Museum at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado Springs, Colorado
F-94C (51-3560) is currently on display at Minnesota ANG Museum at Minneapolis, Minnesota.
F-94C (51-3563) is currently on display at Minneapolis, Minnesota.
F-94C (51-3570) is on display at the Ironworld Discovery Center in Chisholm, Minnesota.
F-94C (51-5520) is on outdoor display at the New England Air Museum in Windsor Locks, Connecticut. Replaced(51-3575) destroyed in 1978 tornado.
F-94C (51-5576) is on display in Bessemer City, North Carolina since 1988. Formerly displayed outside VFW Post 670 in Fayetteville, NC.
F-94C (51-5605) is displayed by the ND ANG at Hector International Airport,Fargo, North Dakota.
F-94C (51-5623) is on display at the Pima Air Museum in Tucson, Arizona
F-94C (51-5671) is on display in the "Erie County Memorial Gardens" cemetery at Erie, Pennsylvania. It was first put on display in 1971 and subsequently left to deteriorate. It was refurbished in 2005.
An F-94 (AF Ser. No. unknown) is on outdoor display at Kirtland Air Force Base at the entrance to the 150th Fighter Wing complex of the New Mexico Air National Guard.

Any more out there? Or is there really only 16 left?

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double post...where's the delete button?

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(Concerning your memories of an example in Duluth)

I suppose it's kind of a long shot, but 50-1006 (Peterson's example) used to be an ANG 179th FS bird based in Duluth and ultimately became a ground instructional airframe. It currently wears Minn. ANG colors.

http://www.petemuseum.org/F94C.html

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A few comments/questions on the list:

The original YF-94A (s/n 48-0356) is on display at the Air Force Flight Test Center Museum at Edwards Air Force Base in California.
>> It’s not on display, but stored in a compound on Rosamond Blvd.

F-94C (51-3560) is currently on display at Minnesota ANG Museum at Minneapolis, Minnesota.
>> This is actually 51-13560.

F-94C (51-3563) is currently on display at Minneapolis, Minnesota.
>> Should be 51-13563. No knowledge of this one, probably confused with either the one below or the one above.

F-94C (51-3570) is on display at the Ironworld Discovery Center in Chisholm, Minnesota.
>> Should be 51-13570. It is apparently marked as 13560. Is the one at the Minnesota ANG Museum still there?

F-94C (51-5520) is on outdoor display at the New England Air Museum in Windsor Locks, Connecticut. Replaced(51-3575) destroyed in 1978 tornado.
>> If that is correct, it has been repainted to represent 51-13575. Confirmation anyone?

An F-94 (AF Ser. No. unknown) is on outdoor display at Kirtland Air Force Base at the entrance to the 150th Fighter Wing complex of the New Mexico Air National Guard.
>> There is no F-94 there. It is F-80B 45-8501.

Finally, 48-373 was apparently found in a private garden somewhere on Long Island in June 1991, but there has been no further info since then.
Regards,
Andy Marden

AUTHOR: USA Military Out of Service

The NEAM F-94 was not destroyed in the 1979 Tornado. It was in storage across the airport from where the storm hit. It is undergoing some restoration at the moment and was originally recovered from a display in a PA coal town. Can't remember if it was a VFW or American Legion Post.

Off hand, I can't remember which serial number is correct, but it did fly with the PA ANG.
Jerry

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Hi Andy,

As far as I know the Minnesota Air Guard Museum F-94 is still there. Here are a few pics of the above mentioned Starfires in my neck of the woods.

As far as the one in the park in Duluth, I have pics of it too, but unfortunately, they are some I took with my 35 mm camera, and I will have to find the prints and scan them in. When it was taken down, I asked one of the locals where it went, and they thought it was being hauled out to a museum in South Dakota, so who knows. Dan could very well be correct. The pic in the link he posted sure looks like the paint scheme it wore if my memory isn't totally shot. Hopefully I can find my pics of that one. Maybe I can read a tail number on it, of course we all know that the identities painted on some of these park birds, aren't very accurate.

Minneapolis, Minnesota (Air Guard Museum)



Chisholm, Minnesota (Ironworld)



Fargo, North Dakota (Air Guard Museum)



It always bugged me that the Ironworld Starfire was painted with the same identity as the one in Minneapolis. No wonder the people that keep track of these birds pull there hair out. (By the way Andy....do you have any hair left at all?)

Now I am on a search for pics of the Duluth bird....

Steve

Thanks for the information. I'll make the changes to the wiki listing.

If the Duluth F-94 went to SD maybe it's at the Ellsworth Museum?
Can anyone confirm?
Aslso, I've heaard that the MN ANG example might be the former Duluth bird? Anyone out there have MN ANG contacts?

Could Mustang Driver or someone with contactas at the NMUSAF confirm the location of the A model 49-2498? Unless I missed it, I don't think it's there any longer.

As far as te NEAM example, perhaps its one of the Middletown, Corey or Mechanicsberg examples?
It's strange that the NEAM entry would be so mixed up since a serial is provided for the second example. Anyone know anything about 51-5520?

I'll make the changes to wiki...
I'm not a huge fan of the site since it can be vandalized and has the occasional gross error (like whover mistook a F-80 for an F-94) ..
BUT
my thought is that it's a handy place to keep updated lists of survivors, since, unlike Braugher and other sites, it can be easly accessed and changed when "we" find new aircraft.
Some preserved ac (like the hundreds of T-33s, and to a lesser extent, F-86s and now Hueys) almost defy producing an all inclusive list, but where just a relative few exist...like early jets, Wiki might help us keep tabs on fairly rare survivors.

What do you think? A new effort for us to undertake?

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I was just at Ellsworth and also the Air Guard Museum in Sioux Falls last year and neither one had an F-94 in their collection (on display anyway), so I am thinking that the person who thought it was heading to South Dakota was mistaken. I don't believe it went to the Air Guard Museum in Minneapolis either. I think Dan's idea of it being the one in Colorado might be correct.

I am still looking for the prints...that was quite a few years ago.

Steve

Well, I don't fit in either catergory, but 2498 was on display in the Modern Flight Gallery when I visited the museum in June and again in August.

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Clifford Bossie
Thanks....I guess I never paid that much attention to it.
Good to see it's there.

Thanks again....

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