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I'm not sure how many of you know that there is group (Lost-Squadron Recovery) from Europe that is vieing to recover the remaining aircraft.

I read on their website, which is sporatically updated, that they are working with the Danish govt. I realize that Denmark adminsters Greenland but do they issue salvage rights?

While the LSR sorts out their continual funding issues. "What if" another organized group were ready to go tomorrow, would they be prevented from attempting the recovery even if the LSR group is years away from attempting it themselves?

Does the Danish Govt say who gets the aircraft or are they first come first serve? (Assuming all proper channels and paperwork are gone throug).

Thanks

Shay
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I would like to see them recovered no matter by whom. Good luck to whomever attemps it, because they're in deeper snow and ice than when Glacier Girl was recovered.

...all they need to do is wait till the global warming kicks in.... then they can just gas em and fly them out.
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First, I am no expert but from the various salvage accounts I have read typically if rights are issued they are time limted. If you don't attempt the recovery within the agreed time then someone else can come in.

Most wartime aircraft abandoned on foriegn soil revert to the government of that soil, or in this case ice. Exceptions would be aircraft that are known war graves or if the US has filed a claim against the wreckage. So Denmark can decide who salvages the aircraft.

Whoever ponies up for the salvage gets the aircraft in whatever deal they make. It could be that Denmark might want one of the aircraft for example and releases the others. I don't see a scenario where one group salvages and then the government sells the salvage to someone else. No salvage group would go for that.

Given the known condition of one of the B-17s and the condition and restoration effort of Glacier Girl I don't see how anyone could salvage these aircraft and then restore them and make any money.

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Actually, according to Bil Thuma (the guy who originally pinpointed the location and depth) they are closer to the surface and closer to the coast, making recovery that much easier. Unfortunately, they will also most likely be even more 'bent out of shape' due to the moving ice.

Glad to see there's still interest in recovering them, though.

any updates on this?

1 snag is the fact that the original recovery team never cleaned up their mess at the site as promised, a real issue with greenland's govt.

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tom d. friedman - hey!!! those fokkers were messerschmitts!! * without ammunition, the usaf would be just another flying club!!! * better to have piece of mind than piece of tail!!

Wasn't that the case as well with the failed Kee Bird recovery effort.

i believe so from what i've read. tarps, junk, oil & fuel drums, heavy machinery, etc, all left behind according to their govt.

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tom d. friedman - hey!!! those fokkers were messerschmitts!! * without ammunition, the usaf would be just another flying club!!! * better to have piece of mind than piece of tail!!

Maybe prospective recovery teams could offer to clean up the Kee Bird site as a goodwill gesture.

It might even be a first step in the recovery of what remains of the Kee Bird as well. As mentioned earlier, it would be a great demonstration opportunity for one of the new cargo airship companies.

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"They done it, they done it, damned if they ain't flew." December 17, 1903

might not be a bad idea for starters!!

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tom d. friedman - hey!!! those fokkers were messerschmitts!! * without ammunition, the usaf would be just another flying club!!! * better to have piece of mind than piece of tail!!