Ruskies
Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:20 am
Folks:
I was wondering why the Russians don't get their transports and helos in standard catwgory with the FAA in the USA? Wouldn't it be beneficial to their economy to sell something Americans can use?
Or is there some kind of industrial complex going on where the US Gov is in cahootz with American companies preventing Russian planes to be flown commercially?
I was wondering why the Russians don't get their transports and helos in standard catwgory with the FAA in the USA? Wouldn't it be beneficial to their economy to sell something Americans can use?
Or is there some kind of industrial complex going on where the US Gov is in cahootz with American companies preventing Russian planes to be flown commercially?
Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:43 am
They tried this with the An-2; unfortunately Cessna has better lobbyists. 
Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:49 am
Well then so did everyone in Europe too....
The problem is that the Russian Certification Standards don't match either US or European (JAA) standards and because of that, there is no "direct" transfer. Until companies like Antonov and Tupolev decide to certificate the aircraft in compliance with FAR or JAR standards, then they will be limited in their operations within the US.
However, one must also remember that there are not a small number of Russian aircraft operating commerically within the US. Until recently there was a handful of An-12's operated by US companies and several companies like Polet Flight, Antonov Design Bureau, Atlant-Soyuz, and Volga-Dnper operate An-124 and Il-76 aircraft into, out of, and within the United States.
The problem is that the Russian Certification Standards don't match either US or European (JAA) standards and because of that, there is no "direct" transfer. Until companies like Antonov and Tupolev decide to certificate the aircraft in compliance with FAR or JAR standards, then they will be limited in their operations within the US.
However, one must also remember that there are not a small number of Russian aircraft operating commerically within the US. Until recently there was a handful of An-12's operated by US companies and several companies like Polet Flight, Antonov Design Bureau, Atlant-Soyuz, and Volga-Dnper operate An-124 and Il-76 aircraft into, out of, and within the United States.
Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:13 pm
Seems there's now a US-registered IL-78 tanker..
http://www.defencetalk.com/il-78-mid-ai ... ces-18984/
http://www.defencetalk.com/il-78-mid-ai ... ces-18984/
Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:04 am
that's the sad truthwarbirdcrew wrote:They tried this with the An-2; unfortunately Cessna has better lobbyists.
Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:09 am
Seems there's now a US-registered IL-78 tanker..
http://www.defencetalk.com/il-78-mid-ai ... ces-18984/
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The hypocrisy here is interesting. The US Military will not sell C-141's to private firms, and has the planes scrapped instead. Then they let a private contractor bring in a Russian plane to refuel military planes.
And I'll bet the IL-76 contract is cheaper than the 777 refueler fiasco.
Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:02 pm
A2C wrote:Seems there's now a US-registered IL-78 tanker..
http://www.defencetalk.com/il-78-mid-ai ... ces-18984/
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The hypocrisy here is interesting. The US Military will not sell C-141's to private firms, and has the planes scrapped instead. Then they let a private contractor bring in a Russian plane to refuel military planes.
And I'll bet the IL-76 contract is cheaper than the 777 refueler fiasco.
figures....J wonder what our government is so afraid of? oh right...US