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Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:52 am
Who is using what in terms of a Smoke Oil Pump on a Standard Category T-6?
I need to replace an old Lear Romec pump from an installation made in the early 90s. I figure it will be easier with the 337 and FAA if there is a previously approved install.
Post here or PM if you wish.
Thanks,
Rich
Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:09 am
we used a ADI pump, but I was never happy with the amount of oil it pumped. I can see if I still have a 337 around I can scan for you. Ours was not heavy in details, but it was approved.
Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:16 am
Compro Aviation makes various smoker systems, most are used in ag aircraft as a drift finder but I think they have sold a few for T-6's as well. He (kevin?) might have a 337 for some of the installs.
(785) 899-2294
Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:01 am
I ran across this site recently, check it out
http://www.smokingairplanes.com/
Robbie
Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:03 am
I saw this site as well. Only drawback seems to be 12 volt pump.
Rich
Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:20 am
Rich, it's been my experience on a T-6 that you want to be able to pump around a gallon per minute. On the bigger iron, such as the Sea Fury, you're lookin' for a gallon and a half per minute. That should give you some sort of reference.
The Smoking Airplanes pumps don't have near enough volume for the T-6. I know that at least one of the Team Aeroshell airplanes used to use a water pump from an RV camper. I've used old fuel boost pumps in the past, but I don't have access to the paperwork on them anymore to get you a copy of the part number and 337 forms. What's good about the electric fuel boost pumps is that they typically have regulators right on them, so you can tinker with just the right amount of flow that you need.
There ain't much that looks worse than a smoke system on an airplane that doesn't put out good smoke.
Gary
Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:09 pm
PM sent
Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:33 pm
retroaviation wrote:There ain't much that looks worse than a smoke system on an airplane that doesn't put out good smoke.
Gary
Exactly.
In the past I have seen systems with a plastic pump from Flojet. I no longer have access to a 337 for those installations.
It looks like Compro uses a Shureflo pump. I have sent an email and might have time to call later.
Thanks,
Rich
Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:44 pm
Hey Rich,
I have seen the Shurflo pumps used a lot. The system from smokingairplanes is using the shurflo pumps also. I actually have a spare pump (24v) at the airport however I am not there to just read the p/n for you. I have purchased them from Grainger and you can just google shurflo and pick out the one you want. Check out this link
http://www.shurflo.com/pages/RV/rv_prod ... _pump.html
I will be up at the airport tommorow and I will get you the p/n.
Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:50 pm
I checked the 337 for one of the HFM's T-6's which has smoke, but alas, no part number was mentioned. And I didn't feel like standing on my head behind the rear seat trying to read the tag with a mirror and flashlight late in the day. Sorry
Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:56 pm
Most of the ones I've come across have been sourced from McMaster Carr..
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