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Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:08 pm
Great pictures! Can't wait to see it at TOM this year!
Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:24 pm
Congrats for getting the F4 flying again. How about buzzing over League City tomorrow so I can see/hear her.
Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:24 pm
Just curious, what's the GPH on an F-4?
Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:35 pm
me109me109 wrote:Just curious, what's the GPH on an F-4?
I don't even want to know!
Ryan
Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:46 pm
Jets don't compute fuel burn in gallons, it's in pounds.
Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:00 pm
Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:15 pm
Roughly 20 lbs per mile + reserve
Look at picture one a little closer, she's in burner, the fuel burn at that point figured in minutes !
Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:34 pm
Congrats on a job well done Rick and crew!
Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:10 am
Phantastic! Looking forward to see her at Thunder. The last time I saw a Phantom fly was sometime in the mid 90s, when a couple of Marine RF-4s (I think) visited our airshow.
SN
Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:10 am
me109me109 wrote:Just curious, what's the GPH on an F-4?
As I remember it was something over 100,000 lb/hr in burner... a clean jet like this one would have a short sortie.... my shortest sortie in the F-4 was a .4... clean jet A/A mission.. straight to the area and coast home.... can't remember what the Mil FF was at corner... but we could get it down to 6000 lb/hr at cruise on the way home...
In airplanes like that you are always in a hurry... gotta use your fuel wisely... think well ahead of the jet.
gunny
Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:24 am
I remember watching a video of a pair of RAF phantoms scrambled to intercept a Tu-95 bear, they were in full afterburner and after they rotated (nose wheel off the runway) the 2 Phantoms remained in a nose up attitude but still on the mains had their burners blasting down onto the surface of the runway for 3 or 4 seconds . I can't remember if the runway was concrete or bitumen but the Phantom must be hell on runway surfaces in full burner !
Anyway , congrats , must have been a great day for the team !
Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:06 am
Rick, I have a silly question. How hard is it to repack that chute used during landing? Is it used during each landing? Or is it only used for shorter runways? It is something I have always wondered.
Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:18 am
Chris, repacking the chute the AF way with the bag is a real pain. We carry a bagged chute on cross countrys in case the one in the tail blows out or gets wet.
We pack the installed chute the Navy/Marine way without the bag. It's really not to bad to repack directly into the jet. NO BROOM HANDLE REQUIRED !
The guys usually won't use the chute on a long runway, but yesterday we were checking all sysytems, so Harry popped the chute on both flights.
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