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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:56 pm 
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has this project just faded off into oblivion? i read somewhere that they were building or had built some fibreglass (there's that word again) mockups of lancasters. anbody know where some pics might be?? i hope that it gets off the ground, it would certainly be a movie that i would enjoy seeing !


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Last I heard it was still on track, they had created 10 full size Lancs, Christian Rivers was set to direct it with Jackson standing behind him, read an interview with Jackson a few months ago where he was working on the script and they were shooting but they had not yet gotten around to tackling the touchy issue of the dog's name in the film....I should venture we'll see it in the next few years....and I'm betting with Jackson's attention to aviation detail, it's gonna be something to see.....

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According to the Internet Movie DataBase (IMDB) the movie is set for release in 2010

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If they don't want to use the dog's real name, they can easily just call it something like Midnight. When we were kids my Brother had a small Boston Bull Dog, named Blackie because that was his color. I never even thought twice about the name in fact until writing this post. We also had a Palomino horse named Blondie.

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The film's timetable was apparently put back somewhat by your Holywood writers strike because apparently Stephen Fry, the script writer, belongs to the US writers union or guild or whatever it was that went on strike. No doubt about to be put back further by the impending Hollywood actor's strike too.

You probably won't see any photos because the Wingnut Films studio and Weta Workshops don't release pre-publicity material willy-nilly. Remember all the lack of information surrounding the Lord of the Rings films, King Kong, etc? It's a bigger impact if it's released without all the secrets given away beforehand. It builds anticipation. Other studios should learn from it. Many films are done to death by the media before they even make it to the cinema.

And there was an official press release reported on about two months or so ago saying the dog will be referred to as Nidge, which is historically correct as a nickname that Gibson used for his dog. So, the PC lot are placated but history stays somewhat intact.

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Bill Greenwood wrote:
If they don't want to use the dog's real name, they can easily just call it something like Midnight. When we were kids my Brother had a small Boston Bull Dog, named Blackie because that was his color. I never even thought twice about the name in fact until writing this post. We also had a Palomino horse named Blondie.


May I suggest , " Jiggers ", for the pup's stage name?


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Kermit is friends with Peter Jackson and once a year visits where they are building the full size Lancaster mock ups. I have seen pictures that Kermit showed us and you can't tell them from the real thing. We also supplied Jackson with our front and rear turrets from our Lancaster project to use as guides to build ones for the film.


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is the dog really that pertinant to the story??? was he at the controls of the lancaster??? no. let the pooch sit out of the movie with a bone to chew on. this politically correct b.s. :bs: is ridiculous. i've never took offense to any derogative statements toward jews in holocaust related movies. history to teach should be accurate.

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Idea .............................maybe after the Movie is shot some of these Mock ups can be used to change out with Real ones that are out on outside displays . and maybe just maybe some more might be restored .
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i really like glens idea about utilizing the mock-ups to replace the outdoor lancs. bring ém inside !!! p.s. lets just leave the dogs name debate alone!!


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I'll third the idea of swapping out the real outdoor displays for replicas.

As for the dog, I've never seen the original film, nor am I well-versed on the history of the raid, but didn't he actually fly with Gibson? That means that the issue kind of has to be adressed in some fashion by the writers.

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Glen wrote:
Idea .............................maybe after the Movie is shot some of these Mock ups can be used to change out with Real ones that are out on outside displays . and maybe just maybe some more might be restored .
Just a Idea


But how? Seems to me that nobody who owns a real outdoor static Lanc would be interested in the mockups, at least not if they had to pay for them. Certainly they wouldn't be interested in swapping for their real Lancs, unless the mockup came with a very large check taped to it. Would you just give them away to the real Lanc owners, let them keep both, and hope they restore the real ones?

Also, you have to wonder whether the mockups are built to withstand long-term outdoor display. Maybe they, too, have to be sheltered.

Better still though, why not offer the mockups to the many, many museums that would love a Lanc but can never get one. I'm sure the NMUSAF and several US collections would be interested.

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The dog, or rather the dogs name is central to the story, and history for that matter, as Gibson chose it as the code word for when they breached the first (Eder?) dam. Also, on the night of the raid the dog was struck and killed by a car. Maybe not central to the story but dramatic nonetheless.

On another note, according to the first movie there was an American with 617 Sqn as one of the Lanc pilots. Can anyone confirm this fact? Why would an American still be in an RAF Sqn so long after Pearl Harbor? He was referred to but not actually featured in the first movie. I'm sure this will change for the remake as to make the movie more attractive to US audiences.

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You have to wonder if natural selection will eventually eliminate the color black from the doggy crayon box?

I have two dogs, one blond and one black, and I must've accidently stepped or sat on the black one about a hundred times already because I couldn't see him in the dark.

It can't possibly be a good survival trait in the day and age of the motor car.

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