Very old plane

Mgawa · **Posted:** Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:50 am

Any idea what this could be?

JDK · **Posted:** Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:05 am

Probably (I'm guessing) a Bleriot.

- It's in France (the Maurice Farman / copy on the left, and French uniforms)

- The undercarriage design is Bleriot style, as is some of the tail design.

- This layout isn't far from Bleriot's theme, which wasn't used by many other designers in the period

JDK · **Posted:** Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:12 am

Looks like a Bleriot XII variant?

bipe215 · **Posted:** Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:31 am

I thought all Bleriots were monoplanes. Race #2 on the left was a Voisin I think. Photo about halfway down this link:

http://www.pedroamaral.com/avi2.html

Steve G

JDK · **Posted:** Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:41 am

bipe215 wrote:

I thought all Bleriots were monoplanes. Race #2 on the left was a Voisin I think. Photo about halfway down this link:

So did I, Steve. But then it's not a straight biplane, as one wing seems well forward of the other.

I agree on the Voisin, which also probably puts the pic at the "Week of Aviation of Anvers - October 22-November 2, 1909"

bipe215 · **Posted:** Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:10 am

Guess that would be a 'tandem wing', which Bleriot did build some of. But I haven't found any of his designs that look like the photo.

Steve G

Mgawa · **Posted:** Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:12 am

Thank you for attention. This is what I get from another gentlemen:

Bulot biplane of 1908-1911.

Walther Bulot was born in Tournai, in Belgium, on 6 January 1874; he built at least 2 different designs.

1908-1909: His first aeroplane, which never flew, was shown at the air meet at Tournai in September 1909, a heavily staggered triplane with wings arched like a bird's, and a horizontal surface at the rear. A tall vertical surface stood in front of the tractor propeller; the fuselage was a high uncovered boxy structure set on 4 wheels. The pilot sat under the middle wing. In November 1909 it was entered in the Antwerp air meet, this time with only the first 2 of its triplane set of wings, a more conventional box fuselage which carried at least at one time the number 9 on the forward covered section. The rudder was moved to the rear, and the landing gear simplified to 2 wheels. In 1911 he had a biplane named La Mouette (the seagull), which he converted to a monoplane in the same year. Perhaps La Mouette was the same aircraft as the biplane previous.

bipe215 · **Posted:** Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:41 am

Mgawa,

Found a picture of the Bulot ship here:
http://www.modelflight.regheath.com/ear ... ameset.htm

Although similar to the ship in your photo, its not the same plane. The whole empenage is different.

Steve G

Mgawa · **Posted:** Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:21 pm

Great link Steve!!! Thank you

BTW- this is just one of many images I get last time. Will try to upload some US type, I know WIX-ers would like them

Mgawa · **Posted:** Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:15 pm

And how about this one?

bipe215 · **Posted:** Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:31 pm

SPAD A-2

Steve G

Mgawa · **Posted:** Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:50 pm

Yes- thank you

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