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Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:18 pm
I posted the "JetStar" the unkown warbird post early this year, many WIXers posted PICs of JetStars in military paint jobs, Thanks to all...
Almost overnight the Jetstars are gone, you don't even see them for sale in any aviation sale publications.
I know that there was an issue with owners of currently flying aircraft and "Lockheed" over A.D.s' etc. to stop any future tech support, I haven't
heard about any grounding issues though.
Has anybody seen any of these aircraft still flying???
Out Here, Tom
Fri Aug 15, 2008 7:38 pm
Here is a real spiffy Jetstar3......
Whoops! Wrong forum...sorry ol' bean!
Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:25 pm
I saw a Jetstar parked at West Palm Beach airport in Florida, in June of last year. From memory, it was all white, no visible markings, and no engines on at least one side. I was there on a short business trip, saw it from a taxi, no time to stop for a photo. It looked like it hadn't moved in quite a while.
Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:18 am
How about this one down in Lauderdale.Ouch..
Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:31 am
MoF has the original, twin engined prototype @ KPAE in pieces awaiting resto-
Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:18 am
There are 3 or 4 parked in the weeds at the Addison airport, Addison, Texas..
Lynn
Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:23 am
There was one here in Midland about a year ago, getting paint and interior for some preacher type who supposedly has a couple of them to fly all over the place and spread the word. Business must be good.
Gary
Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:28 am
Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:27 pm
One shares a hangar at Ellington in Houston with a King Air I occasionally fly. It was Bob Hope's former aircraft, N18BH I believe.
It's in immaculate condition. It only flies a couple hours a month, but they seem to have a full-time mechanic...
Sat Aug 16, 2008 4:39 pm
This is one of the Addison ramp queens...
Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:42 pm
Zane: Without digging into the records, that's either a 731 JetStar or a JetStar 2. It had the 4 Pratts replaced with a pair of 731 turbofans, the cockpits updated and the slipper tanks flushed with the tops of the wings. Garrett converted some then Lockheed went back into production with them for a while.
Lots of room, but heavy a/c for it's size.
Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:45 am
After the AD's came out Lockheed refused to produce the parts to comply with the AD. This has effectively killed the jetstar as I understand it. There was talk about the owners banding together and having the airframe parts produced but I don't know whatever happened to that. I don't know all the gorey AD details but that's the story as I understand it. ....I guess it was cheaper for Lockheed to do that than buy in all the planes and then chop 'em up like those B****ds at raytheon did to the Starship.
BTW I was a member of a group that tried to buy the Starship spares inventory and support, Raytheon would have legally absolved themselves of any future responsibilty for the planes and their support, but we were told that "the decesion had been made" and "would not be revisited".
Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:41 pm
Dead give away between a 731 conversion and a Jetstar 11 is the 11 has a small scoop right at the tail and fus.That is a 731 conv.without the engines.
Here is the Pratt power and the Jetstar two..
Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:48 pm
Greetings and thanks for the Pics and posts'.
Great job on the attention to detail!!!
You guys are right, the origional JetStar airframes that
were modified and converted to the Garrett turbofans had
no Air scoop on the dorsal fin/aft fuselage area, the inlets
for the airconditioning and pressurization were located on
the engine/nacelle mount area.
The brand new JetStar II had a scoop located on the dorsal
area.
It's a shame that an AD killed this airframe, I only worked
on them for 6 years but it was such a cool plane to work on...
Thanks for the responses.
Out Here, Tom
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