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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:55 am 
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Such as North American/Aero Classics

Does it mean it was rebuilt at a particular shop or something, there are something like 80 plus P-51s with this as the manufacturer

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Probably a bad case of copy and paste?

I noticed a long time ago, that all of a sudden, in some British airplane publications, the Piper Navajo became a "Piper Colemill" even when the airplanes had not undergone any maintenance, repairs, or had any additional equipment installed by Colemill.

Could it be something similar?


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Thanks, maybe - I will ask on AB-IX (Air Britain Information Exchnage) someone may kniw the definative answer there!

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To be quite honest with you I don't have the absolute truth on this matter, but you will sometimes find the name of the person rebuilding the a/c listed behind the North American/ desription. I guess Aero Classics might be a company which did some kind of mod or such to the P-51 type which has then been incorporated in the certificate. But this is just a guess...

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T J Johansen wrote:
To be quite honest with you I don't have the absolute truth on this matter, but you will sometimes find the name of the person rebuilding the a/c listed behind the North American/ desription. I guess Aero Classics might be a company which did some kind of mod or such to the P-51 type which has then been incorporated in the certificate. But this is just a guess...

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TJ you're right. One of mine (Bald Eagle) was incorrectly registered as "North American/Aero Classics" in the early 80's when it returned to Limited from Experimental status when my Dad was racing her. My understanding is that the title companies submitted, and the FAA accepted, that as the correct designation. It is a total pain in the a$$$ to change it; when I bought Princess she was listed as "North American/Regina" and it took me three months, two affidavits, and a lot of back and forth with the FAA to get her correctly registered and out of the experimental category and back to Limited which is the correct category. Now she's registered solely as North American and in that context it was worth the work.

The question is what to do about it; I'm debating trying to correct Bald Eagle's registration but I also wonder what bag of worms that will open. jb


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I wonder if it has something to do with the amount of restoration or building done by the company/person. I know that a homebuilt aircraft is usually listed by the owner's last name. Roy Halliday's T-33 is listed as a Halliday T-33, due to the fact that they fabricated and built more than half the plane during restoration. I don't know, just a thought.

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All good stuff - the only question there is who are Aero Classics?

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Aero Classics used to do aircraft restorations. I believe they're now out of business.


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I just asked this same question at Oshkosh and was told that Aero Classics was the type certificate owner at that time and therefore all the P-51"s that were registered then were Aero Classic. I think he said they were in Chino at the time. I believe Art Teeters is the type certificate owner after Cavalier sold it to him.
Anyway this is what I remember from a lot of talking over 7 days at Oshkosh.


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