L Bird down in Philadelphia

[RickH]

Fox news just showed the crash site of what appears to be a military marked L bird of some type. The report is that a student and his instructor were practicing touch and gos. Somehow they ended up between two tractor trailers backed up to loading docks on a big warehouse. You can see the OD wing with invasion stripes, not much else left after the fire.

What a shame,... prayers go out to them.

[Forgotten Field]

It was a Grumman AA-5 (modern version of the Grumman Tiger/Cub) with Hortman aviation.

[Robbie Roberts]

I know it one of Hortman's Grummans: I am not sure it was their military marked one: It looked like it at first, but later pics I saw looked like it had civilian paint- what was left of it anyway: that was a bad one- not much A/C left. And it was a double fatality, unfortunately. They were surmising last night a departure stall and spin after doing a touch and go, while executing an "at your pleasure" tower requested turn.

Robbie

[RickH]

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/local&id=6159071

Thanks Forgotten Field, I just saw a short blurb on FOX they acted like it had just happened. The link is to the full evening news report, it look to be amazingly accurate for a TV story. Looking at the close up video you can see the square wingtip of the Grumman.

[bipe215]

According to the FAA incident database, the a/c in question is an AA-1
which is the two seat Yankee/Lynx version. If you spin one of those even up high, its tough to get out.

Steve G

[Forgotten Field]

I don't like the look of those airplanes. I think the Cub and the BD-5 look like coffins...

[RickH]

I don't like the look of those airplanes. I think the Cub and the BD-5 look like coffins...

HUH ?

I was mistaken in calling the aircraft in question an L bird. The surviving wing was in OD green with invasion stripes. As stated the aircraft that went down was a Grumman AA-1 which has no resemblance to a Cub and certainly none with a BD-5.


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[Robbie Roberts]

Hortman has one(that I know of) painted up to look like a Spitfire with invasion stripes: I don't think it was that one, but I can't be sure.

-I just reviewed the link for channel 6news- I did not know they had two at Hortman with that paint scheme. I know I have seen them during my breaks at school doing touch and goes many times.

Additional- I just received this e-mail from one of my instructors at Aviation Institute of Maintenance:

I'm sorry that I've taken so long to get back to you, but the student was an
A.I.M. graduate in 2005 named Charles Angelina who was also a lead over at
Agusta Aerospace too. Sad! The instructor was 28 yrs old...

Ron

Robbie

[L2Driver]

The aircraft shown in OD green is a Taylorcraft L-2M, not a cub.

[RyanShort1]

The aircraft shown in OD green is a Taylorcraft L-2M, not a cub.

L-2 in foreground, Cub behind (Taylor's ride)...



Ryan