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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:00 pm 
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Yesterday, for my 17th birthday, dad and I ventured down into Cincinnati territory to meet up with some friends, and check out the Tri-State Warbird Museum.

The day started out with crappy weather, so dad and I planned to visit TSWM, then as the weather lifted, scoot on over to Sunken-Lunken, to hang out with our friends at the fly-in.

Tri-State Warbird Museum has a phenomenal collection, with some extremely rare types (especially for us Midwesterners!) Among the warbirds housed here were a Mustang, Stearman, T-6, TBM, B-25, and the projects consisted of a P-40, Corsair, and a FW-190!

Here's a photographic examination of the TSWM's sweet set-up!

Corsair

Wing...
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Tailcone...
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Cockpit...
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Inside of the tailcone...
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Detail of the strut housed within the tailcone...
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Fuse and center-section...
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The Corsair's excuse for a floor!!!
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Corsair gun-bay...
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Another tail-cone view...
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The wing-root...
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FW-190

Fuselage of Red-13...
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Wings of the Butcher-Bird...
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Wing detail...
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Landing gear...
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Red-13...
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The split of the flaps...
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Bare rudder of the 190...
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Someone's signature. I figured if it someone signed the fuselage, they're probably important...
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Inside of the vertical-stab...
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And the engine on the Focke-Wulf was described by a museum volunteer as, "A Chinese replica of a Russian replica of a replica of the original Jumo". Paul Redlich, the President of the museum, said this particular power-plant was used on every Chinese or Russian, I can't recall, 4-engine transport, due to its reliability...

Check out the nice set of pipes on this thing!!!
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And to validate the Chinese part of the engine...
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P-40

An actual combat-vet, this Warhawk will be restored to its original colors...
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Warhawk wings...
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The inside of the fuselage is going to be repainted to a more accurate color...
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Another fuse view...
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I don't know my in-line engines, but I'm guessing this belongs to the P-40...

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TBM

The TSWM also houses one of the most beautiful Avengers I've ever seen...
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Wing-fold area...
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Venturi!!!
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Tail feathers...
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Turkey and the Butcher Bird...
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P-51

Cincinatti Miss didn't fly this weekend, but Paul did pull her out in order to get the '6 out...
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Gotta love the cuffed prop...
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Get out of the shot dad!!! ;)
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A pretty reliable flap-degree indicator!!!
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The North American showdown...
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Paul tugs the '51 out of the TSWM hangar...
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The best props in the world!!!
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T-6

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Some artsy stuff...
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Then Pual took to the skies in Tweety, to take the airplane to the Lunken fly-in, just down the road...
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Paul had a strut-extension problem, so he had to circle back around and land. Here are shots of my dad and Paul discussing the issues...
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After a little WD-40, Paul took to skies again, with no more problems...
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TSWM also has some excellent exhibits, which I peeked at while dad and I were on our way out the door...
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I wish this could be my high-school car...
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The Mighty Merlin...
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I thought this DG was kinda funny...
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Next up was the fly-in at Lunken...

Les Heikkla stands on his Texan...
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Redlich watches a overhead break...
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Les' T-6
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Todd Weinmiller
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Al Schiffer...
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Mike Schiffer...
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Tom Adle...
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Ralph Lutes...
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Les and John Lohmar taxi back in from a short flight...
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I got a good prop-arc when John Shuttleworth and Glenn Foy scavenge...
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Anyone notice anything different here???
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Then it was back to TSWM for a dinner. Warbird Digest photographer and I went out to the runway at Clermont County airport, right across the runway from the renowned Sportys Pilot Shop, and shot the arrivals of the guys...
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John Shuttleworth and Tim Rumrill stayed up and did a few fly-by's for us...
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Hope you enjoyed the photos!!! Sorry about the sub-par photography, gotta knock that rust off!

Tailwinds,

Trey Carroll

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Wow, great series of photographs, Trey! You're quite the photographer.

The engine on the FW-190 is the Ash-82. It is a Chinese version of the Russian engine. It is what all of the Flug Werk aircraft are using instead of the BMW-801. Do you know any more about this 190? Is it a 100% Flug Werk aircraft or does it have any original parts on it? Who was the previous owner? Do you know when they anticipate it will fly?

Also, who's signature is on the 190? At first, I was going to say Kurt Tank, the legendary designer of the aircraft, but then I realized he died 25 years ago, so it can't be him.

Also, do you have any more info on the Corsair? I'm assuming it was one of the Black Sheep film aircraft, because it has that totally "authentic", ugly blue color on it that was painted on the film birds.


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Trey Carroll wrote:
Anyone notice anything different here???
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I can't see anything different. That Hydromatic is in the way! :wink:

I'd sure like to know more about that! 22D40? What were they originally used on? Under what kind of approval do they use it on the T-6?


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Trey Carroll wrote:
Anyone notice anything different here???
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I can't see anything different. That Hydromatic is in the way! :wink:

I'd sure like to know more about that! 22D40? What were they originally used on? Under what kind of approval do they use it on the T-6?

Ditto here. I wonder if clearance between blade and cowl is different.
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WOW! Speaking about the Corsair (or course) anyway. I had viewed the wings that Butch Schroeder and the gang at Danville IL had rebuilt to about that stage and they were fantastic. I see that the quality is being maintained throughout and they are even useing/recad plating the hardware in the correct fashion.

I really enjoyed these because I just crawled out of my tailcone and cockpit area from a few hours of disassembling and photo documenting.

Thank you for posting. The other planes look great too!

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Trey,

You said the P-40 is going to go into it's original markings, do you know what they should be? Also it looks like they are running out of hangar space fast!

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warbird1 wrote:
Also, who's signature is on the 190? At first, I was going to say Kurt Tank, the legendary designer of the aircraft, but then I realized he died 25 years ago, so it can't be him.


The signature would appear to be that of Luftwaffe Experten Guenther Rall.

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Great set of photos, thanks for that.

Nice to see someone using an eye and a brain rather than obsessing about which camera to pose with.

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Dan K wrote:
warbird1 wrote:
Also, who's signature is on the 190? At first, I was going to say Kurt Tank, the legendary designer of the aircraft, but then I realized he died 25 years ago, so it can't be him.


The signature would appear to be that of Luftwaffe Experten Guenther Rall.


I agree on the signature, I have it on a Robert Taylor Print.
Met him 20 years ago in DC. A true Gentleman....


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I tell you what, I 'm extremely impressed with Paul Redlich and the whole museum gang up there. That place is really growing into a top quality collection, and fast!

With that Corsair being one of the last essentially bone stock, unrestored examples left on the planet, I'm very excited to see that it's getting the quality of restoration it deserves. Looks like it found its way into very capable hands.

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I'm sorry...not enough pictures!
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Many thanks for sharing them.


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Thanks for all of the compliments guys!!! :D 8)

Michael, the P-40 will look as such...
http://www.tri-statewarbirdmuseum.org/p40.shtml

Warbird 1...
The FW is a Flug Werk aircraft. I don't know who the previous owner was, but now it's owned by a surgeon from Lafayette, Indiana, Tom Summers (I believe). The airplane won't fly for a couple of years probably.

The Corsair is a Black Sheep airplane.

Thanks again!

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Those are some great shots! Thanks for the images!!!

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Hi Trey,

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!

Now go and get your exams written!!!!!!!! and tell dad to do some extra sit-ups!

If you want to skip school tomorrow and Wednesday I'll be working on the TBM

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You sure have a great eye, Trey! Beautiful photos!

I'm particularly fond of "The North American Showdown" --


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