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Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:23 pm
ok for those of you in the fort worth area on friday..... Glacier girl is going to be at Lockheed from about 11-12. its just for employees but as most of you in the area know.. she has to land and tack off from carswell. i saw a flyer a classmate had since he works at Lockheed and he knows im the resident warbird nut at school. i will be in school and unless it flies towards meacham i wont be able to see it too well. so please someone get some photos, since they wont allow them where she will be parked for the employees to see her. and another note, we will be having a speaker tomorrow at the college.. a tuskegeee airman, another event i wont get to go to thanks to my A&P classes. but maybe i can talk my instructor into it.
Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:01 pm
There will be an F-35, P-38 photo flight somewhere in there.
Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:45 pm
I had heard that this visit might be happening sometime soon...just not that soon.
A photo flight?!? I have not heard that at all...How exciting!
I wonder if GG is going to stay the night at NFW or stay somewhere else locally??
Thanks for the heads up.
Z
Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:07 pm
Heard from a friend it is a ground only photo op and that employees will not be allowed to take pictures themselves.
Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:42 pm
There are mountains of GG photos on this forum so if you need some, all you gotta do is look. As a matter of fact, I've got a bunch that I'll send you if you like.
Mudge the photog
Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:59 am
This is the text of an email message sent to Lockheed employees:
Famous P-38 'Glacier Girl' Will Stop Here on Friday (Posted: Monday, February 25, 2008)
A Lockheed P-38 Lightning that was recovered from beneath 268 feet of ice in Greenland and restored to like-new flying condition will make a brief stop at Lockheed Martin’s Fort Worth plant on Friday, Feb. 29, weather permitting. The P-38 Lightning is the namesake for the 5th generation F-35 Lightning II.
Glacier Girl will be available for employee viewing on the Transient Ramp from 11:15 a.m. to 12:15 p.m. Employees wishing to see the legendary twin-engine fighter may do so on their own time. Personal cameras are not allowed but Photographic Services will be taking pictures, which will be available for downloading later on www.teamjsf.com. To get to the Transient Ramp, walk north from the cafeteria alongside the factory and turn right at Hangar 7.
Glacier Girl was part of the so-called Lost Squadron that in 1942 was forced to land during bad weather in the Greenland wilderness. The crews survived, but the aircraft were slowly covered by layer upon layer of ice. After several failed attempts, Glacier Girl was finally recovered in 1992. A long and painstaking restoration brought the sleek fighter to pristine condition. Glacier Girl is one of only about a half-dozen flight-worthy P-38s in the world.
Steve Hinton, among the world’s best known warbird pilots, will be at the controls of Glacier Girl when it lands at NAS Fort Worth Joint Reserve Base. Steve is expected to be on hand during the employee viewing period. In 1979, flying a highly modified P-51 Mustang, Steve broke the world speed record for piston-driven aircraft (499 mph). He has flown warbirds in many motion pictures and television series, including Black Sheep Squadron.
More information about Glacier Girl can be found at this link: http://www.thelostsquadron.com/
Cheers!
Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:31 am
Thanks Dean.
Wearing my editor's hat...
The P-38 Lightning is the namesake for the 5th generation F-35 Lightning II.
No, anonymous PR person. It is the original the modern aircraft is named
after, but your corporate ego can't handle a greater precedent, so needs to diminish achievement.

That
should read '...the squirty thing we are so exited about is the namesake for the P-38 Lightning...' (Later, I'll tell you what I realy think.

)
The rest of it's OK, apart from Steve's fame is probably hardly polished by reference to a stone-age TV series...
Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:00 am
Mudge wrote:There are mountains of GG photos on this forum so if you need some, all you gotta do is look. As a matter of fact, I've got a bunch that I'll send you if you like.
Mudge the photog

Yeah but some of us great unwashed have yet to see the "Girl" in person and this could be that chance...
Zane the (sarcastic) selfish...
Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:12 am
Zane: Best place to see her on arrival and departure will be from the exit/entrance ramp area at 341 and White Settlement road. Figure being there by 10:30 or so.
Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:21 am
Roger that!
I know "the spot" well...I'm just afraid Steve will use the first 4,000 feet of the runway and she'll be a dot on the landscape...
That and It'll be tricky getting there during work hours...
The view...
Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:41 am
Everybody might get lucky if the weather pattern doesn't change before tomorrow. Everything for the last two weeks or so has been operating south to north for the most part. I suspect that there will be a couple of flybys on both the inbound and outbound legs. I wish that there was going to be an air-to-air shoot, but that will probably be held when all major versions of the F-35 are available, as it would make a heck of a poster.
Working nights does have some advantages
Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:39 am
Actually JDK, the PR hack's usage of "namesake" is correct. It can also be used to refer to the original from whom/which the name is derived, and here in the US at least, that usage is probably more common than using it to refer to the later-named entity. In the US it also does not connote any denigration of the name-donor; quite the contrary.
August
Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:41 pm
Here's the final word. I just got some inside information from my contact at Lockheed. There will NOT be an air-to-air photo shoot. Glacier Girl will be parked on the transient ramp alongside F-35A #1 for a one-hour photography session for the press (only), and then available for a one-hour viewing session by Lockheed employees (only). My buddy tried hard to get me in, but they are not letting anyone in other than the select group of press photographers.
Such is life. . .
Dean the seriously bummed
Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:20 pm
JDK wrote:Thanks Dean.
Wearing my editor's hat...
The P-38 Lightning is the namesake for the 5th generation F-35 Lightning II.
No, anonymous PR person. It is the original the modern aircraft is named
after, but your corporate ego can't handle a greater precedent, so needs to diminish achievement.

I'm sorry JDK, but doesn't "Namesake"
MEAN origin of name?
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