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 Post subject: Question about Yak 3s
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:04 am 
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What is a flyable Yak3 valued at? How many are in the U.S.? Are any for sale?

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Hi Mike. Allison or radial flavored?

This from Jan. 22 on Barnstormers:

YAK 3 • MAKE OFFER • 40TT. P&W R-1830, 400smoh. New production. Fast & fun. Spares/tools/manuals. • Contact Bill Burdis, Owner - located Coraopolis, PA USA • Telephone: 412-269-8845 • Fax: 412-269-8845 • Posted January 22, 2008 • Show all Ads posted by this Advertiser • Recommend This Ad to a Friend • Email Advertiser • Save to Watchlist • Report This Ad

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Sorry Allison powered

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Looking to get into a pointy-engined plane? Must have gotten cold where you are.


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Well, there are the Yak 3's and the Yak 9's, which are essentially the same airplane, but with mostly insignificant differences. I want to say there are a dozen or so of them (total) in the U.S. Right now, I don't personally know of any for sale, but they will typically range between $350,000.00-$500,000.00 (from what I've seen). I maintained one for a few years out of Memphis and really liked the airplane. They're probably the best bang for the buck on the Warbird fighter market right now.

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Has someone modified Yak 3s or 9s with radials? Or are you thinking of a Yak 11?


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Hi Mike. Allison or radial flavored?

This from Jan. 22 on Barnstormers:

YAK 3 • MAKE OFFER • 40TT. P&W R-1830, 400smoh. New production. Fast & fun. Spares/tools/manuals. • Contact Bill Burdis, Owner - located Coraopolis, PA USA • Telephone: 412-269-8845 • Fax: 412-269-8845 • Posted January 22, 2008 • Show all Ads posted by this Advertiser • Recommend This Ad to a Friend • Email Advertiser • Save to Watchlist • Report This Ad


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Sorry, I didn't read the ad, I just saw it was a Yak-3. So, what's the scoop with this one? Is it a 3 modded with an 1830 or is it really an 11 with an 1830 or what?

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Has someone modified Yak 3s or 9s with radials? Or are you thinking of a Yak 11?


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Hi Mike. Allison or radial flavored?

This from Jan. 22 on Barnstormers:

YAK 3 • MAKE OFFER • 40TT. P&W R-1830, 400smoh. New production. Fast & fun. Spares/tools/manuals. • Contact Bill Burdis, Owner - located Coraopolis, PA USA • Telephone: 412-269-8845 • Fax: 412-269-8845 • Posted January 22, 2008 • Show all Ads posted by this Advertiser • Recommend This Ad to a Friend • Email Advertiser • Save to Watchlist • Report This Ad


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At the end of the war the Ruskies did build a variant of the Yak-3 with an AsH-82N radial and called it the Yak-3U. It never went into production, but that design later morphed into the Yak-11, which unfortunately had a whole lot less ooomph.

A few of the "continuation" Yak-3s were built in the late 90s to take radials and called Yak-3UWs I believe. However, from what I understand there was a real mish-mash of new parts and salvaged Yak-11 parts that went into the "new" production aircraft. Some are totally new, some have Yak-11 wings or such.

The Yak 3/9 series is a lot more popular in Europe...Richard Goode usually has leads on a few for sale:

http://www.russianaeros.com/ForSale.htm


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Here you go, Mikey...don't know how recent the ad is though:

http://www.avbuyer.com/aircraftsales/Ai ... PerPage=10


Classic Wings has a highback 7B for sale as well:

http://www.classicwings.com/sales.htm

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Courtesy Aircraft has a couple of Yak 11s for sale that are projects. I think they are owned by Weeks and one may be the ex Egyptian Airforce , Russian built, British registered G-AYAK, that was flyable until dameged in Hurricane Andrew.
I have seen the Yak-11 fly with the 830 hp. Shetsov radial and it was pretty fast and agile. Probably much lighter than the other yaks.


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Probably much lighter than the other yaks.


I dunno if that's the case or not. The Yak 11 is a bit bigger, due to it's full sized back seat (it was a trainer, after all). Either way, they're a cool airplane. Our Yak 9's empty weight was only in the 4,600 pound range. :shock: Pretty good power to weight ratio for sure.

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Well, there are the Yak 3's and the Yak 9's, which are essentially the same airplane, but with mostly insignificant differences.


Not quite true, the Yak-3 (which came later) was a new design.

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At the end of the war the Ruskies did build a variant of the Yak-3 with an AsH-82N radial and called it the Yak-3U. It never went into production, but that design later morphed into the Yak-11, which unfortunately had a whole lot less ooomph.

A few of the "continuation" Yak-3s were built in the late 90s to take radials and called Yak-3UWs I believe. However, from what I understand there was a real mish-mash of new parts and salvaged Yak-11 parts that went into the "new" production aircraft. Some are totally new, some have Yak-11 wings or such.


Photo of a R-2000-powered Yak-3U, done in Romania
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled ... 1122133/M/

Photo of a R-1830-powered Yak-3U in France
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled ... 1320686/M/
I read somewhere this one was also done in Romania.
The French civil register calls it a Yak-3UTI-PW, which is strange (UTI is trainer, the U in Yak-3U meant something else)

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Yak 11's are just fine the way they were designed to be, can we please stop mutilating them with funny engines and wierd brakes :P The pneumatic system is all part of the excitement of operating one. :D


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Well, there are the Yak 3's and the Yak 9's, which are essentially the same airplane, but with mostly insignificant differences.


Not quite true, the Yak-3 (which came later) was a new design.


Well, I was referring to the "new" batch of airplanes that started coming out of Russia in the mid to late '80s, which for the most part, are the only ones flying currently. The differences between them (and there are some) are not huge.

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Well, I was referring to the "new" batch of airplanes that started coming out of Russia in the mid to late '80s, which for the most part, are the only ones flying currently. The differences between them (and there are some) are not huge.

Gary


Aww, sorry. I guess they're a bit of a hotchpotch of Yak-9, Yak 3 and Yak-11 then.

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