Warbird Information Exchange

DISCLAIMER: The views expressed on this site are the responsibility of the poster and do not reflect the views of the management.
It is currently Fri Apr 03, 2026 7:21 pm

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Classic Wings Magazine WWII Naval Aviation Research Pacific Luftwaffe Resource Center
When Hollywood Ruled The Skies - Volumes 1 through 4 by Bruce Oriss


Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 12 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: A-1 Skyraiders query
PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:22 am 
A-1 Skyraiders are how easy to restore to flight and keep maintained?

How many are left unrestored but can be reflown with some restoring work?

Are their any currently in rebuild to fly?


Top
  
 
PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:50 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:21 pm
Posts: 962
Location: my home planet is EARTH!
if you want a vietnam type...Its a military combat aircraft---bring many wheelbarrows full of money and elbow grease....I know first hand, I helped Jay Cullum clean his once!

_________________
EVERYTHING that CAN fly should be ALLOWED to FLY!
IWO JIMA'S best narative..."GOD ISN'T HERE"
http://www.amazon.com/God-Isnt-Here-Ame ... 0976154706


P: Noise coming from under instrument panel. Sounds like a midget pounding on something with a hammer.

S: Took hammer away from midget.


Last edited by n5151ts on Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:41 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:38 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:32 pm
Posts: 697
Location: KBLI
Just my humble opinion...

I've never heard a pilot bad-mouth a Skyraider, most can't say enough good things about the them. They are obviously a great airplane to fly.

But, in my experience they are not a mechanics airplane. Everything is big, heavy and DIRTY. And probably only reachable from a tall step ladder. More like working on a single engine prop-liner than an aerobatic aircraft. You can have all the cowling off a Mustang by yourself in a few minutes. Try that with an AD; better have your Tyvek suit on or you'll be filthy by the time you're done. And yes, I know they have that neat hinged split cowl that opens up for easy access. You've just got to watch out for the black rain that falls after it's opened :lol:

Keep in mind that this is was a pretty high tech aircraft in '45, so has a more complicated hyd. system than some other contemporary aircraft. Very similiar to the Corsair in that respect.

And there are some parts issues with the AD as there are no businesses specialising in parts for them like Pioneer for the Mustang or Lance for the T-6. The stuff is out there, just a little tougher and time-consuming to find.

Again, a great aircraft; I wouldn't trade the time I've spent working on them for anything. There just not as easy a restoration as a Mustang or T-6.

Oh yeah, for a good run-down of the remaining Skyraiders and projects underway check your back issues of Warbird Digest. They ran a two part series about them last year.

_________________
"They can teach MONKEYS to fly better than that"

http://www.heritageflight.org
http://www.bravo369.org


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:57 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2005 3:03 am
Posts: 958
Location: Creve Couer, MO
Hal B wrote:
Quote:
But, in my experience they are not a mechanics airplane. Everything is big, heavy and DIRTY. And probably only reachable from a tall step ladder. More like working on a single engine prop-liner than an aerobatic aircraft. You can have all the cowling off a Mustang by yourself in a few minutes. Try that with an AD; better have your Tyvek suit on or you'll be filthy by the time you're done. And yes, I know they have that neat hinged split cowl that opens up for easy access. You've just got to watch out for the black rain that falls after it's opened


Wrong! Totally depends on the airplane and how it's maintained. My airplane is a clean as any round engine airplane you can find. It was just as you describe, when I first got it. It's not cheap to get them clean and dry, but it's not too bad to keep it that way once you get it set up. As for working on it, B4 stand is a must, and the shop has to be set up for it, correct tools different lighting etc. But once again, once you get it all set up, not bad at all. There is nothing you can't fix on the Spad with a huge pile of O rings and a huge pile of cash.

Check out Danny Summer's AD5 as well, it's very clean also.

_________________
Eric

"I spent most of my money on alcohol, women and skyraiders....and the rest of it I just wasted."


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:06 am 
Offline
Co-MVP - 2006
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 18, 2005 10:39 am
Posts: 4468
Location: Midland, TX Yee-haw.
Yup. What Eric said. And ol' "Dirty Three Filthy" can indeed be made to run quite clean. Besides, you don't have to adjust the valves every 25 hours and retorque the heads on an AD and you don't have to worry about coolant leaks like you do on a Mustang. :wink:

Gary


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:44 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:32 pm
Posts: 697
Location: KBLI
I knew my comments would get Eric's attention :lol:

The engine in ours was a real oil pumper, even with lots of new cyls. and o-rings. The new engine will help the "filth" problem. At least the oil; there's not much you can do about the black soot down the side of the aircraft after a flight.

And Gary, I'd rather run the racks on a couple of Merlins than change a couple of cylinders on a 3350 :wink:

As I kind of hinted in my first post; my experience with an AD has not been all that much fun, (try changing 60+ cylinders to get 18 good ones)but still worthwhile.

Again, this has just been my experience, and YMMV...

_________________
"They can teach MONKEYS to fly better than that"

http://www.heritageflight.org
http://www.bravo369.org


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: ????
PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:28 pm 
Offline
Co-MVP - 2006
User avatar

Joined: Sat May 01, 2004 11:21 pm
Posts: 11475
Location: Salem, Oregon
Bob Watts did a formation at Oshgosh a few years ago with his million $$ T-28B N313WB. He was in trail behind "Naked Fanny" and though it odd to be raining :shock: I'm told that after he landed and saw his a/c covered with black gold his tortured screams could be heard miles away :)

_________________
Don't touch my junk!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:52 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2005 3:03 am
Posts: 958
Location: Creve Couer, MO
Hal B wrote:

Quote:
As I kind of hinted in my first post; my experience with an AD has not been all that much fun, (try changing 60+ cylinders to get 18 good ones)but still worthwhile.


WTF? 60 cylinders? When you get the new engine in, call me and I'll tell you how to get rid of the soot on the airframe. Really simple, but to complicated to go over in the forum.

60 cylinders? I say again, WTF?

_________________
Eric

"I spent most of my money on alcohol, women and skyraiders....and the rest of it I just wasted."


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:51 pm 
Offline
Newly-minted T-6 Pilot
User avatar

Joined: Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:55 pm
Posts: 713
Location: Central Indiana
HOW MANY SPARK PLUGS??? :Hangman:

_________________
"There are two types of people here; airshow whores and airshow prostitutes. The whores, like you and I, do airshow stuff for free, whereas the prostitutes are paid" - Reg Urschler


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:51 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:32 pm
Posts: 697
Location: KBLI
EDowning wrote:
Hal B wrote:

Quote:
As I kind of hinted in my first post; my experience with an AD has not been all that much fun, (try changing 60+ cylinders to get 18 good ones)but still worthwhile.


WTF? 60 cylinders? ...

60 cylinders? I say again, WTF?


Yeah, I don't want to change another jug for a long time...

Lets just say problems with the rebuilt cylinders and leave it at that.
Had troubles with the rockers they installed; and many stuck valves from keywrap in the guides and insufficient valve/guide clearance. :x

Changed rebuilders and the top end problems went away... Until the bottom end let go :cry:

_________________
"They can teach MONKEYS to fly better than that"

http://www.heritageflight.org
http://www.bravo369.org


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:38 am 
Offline
Co-MVP - 2006
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 18, 2005 10:39 am
Posts: 4468
Location: Midland, TX Yee-haw.
For my future reference, I'd really be interested to know who your cylinder rebuilder was. Feel free to PM or E-mail me if you'd rather not post it on the forum.

Gary


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:43 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2005 3:03 am
Posts: 958
Location: Creve Couer, MO
Gary wrote:
Quote:
For my future reference, I'd really be interested to know who your cylinder rebuilder was. Feel free to PM or E-mail me if you'd rather not post it on the forum.


Me too. I'd like to avoid that problem. What happened to the poorly overhaul cyls? They would probably make great cores.

_________________
Eric

"I spent most of my money on alcohol, women and skyraiders....and the rest of it I just wasted."


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 12 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 105 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group