777 Crash at London

[Jet Mech]

Just wondering, other than total fuel loss, why would a 777 loose all engine power at 600" AGL, on final.

Cant wait for the real story behind what happened to this flight.

[mike furline]

Pictures can be found here, http://www.airliners.net/ , right side of page.

Regards,

[CAPFlyer]

I've heard from two fairly reliable sources that the initial thought is leaning towards fuel contamination. The only other likely possibility would be fuel starvation, but I have a serious doubt that a crew would knowingly fly a plane dry when there were plenty of alternates along the way if they were running short.

[Sabremech]

I never knew a 777 was a warbird! This forum is the wrong place for this.
David

[Forgotten Field]

but I have a serious doubt that a crew would knowingly fly a plane dry when there were plenty of alternates along the way if they were running short.

If you want to keep believing that, don't talk to any airline pilots... There are signifigant numbers of times when they are low on fuel on arrival.

Let's start a pool. I'll put a $1.00 in the pot and say they find less than 20 gallons left...

[CAPFlyer]

In my 3 years working line & fueling, I only once had a plane come in under minimum. That plane was under by about 2000 pounds, but had also had to do 2 missed approaches and held for almost an hour due to weather at Denver.

This included fueling both BA (777) and Lufthansa's (A340) flights out on a regular basis, and neither came in with anything remotely resembling "low" fuel. In fact, usually I was surprised how much fuel they had left when they arrived. In fact, the international flights tended to always have well more than the required reserves aboard upon landing. We had a lot of domestic flights land with little or no reserve above minimum left, but few international flights.

Some of the smaller operations probably cut it a hell of a lot closer (I know at my former employer we did once, but entirely due to issues out of our control), but the regulatory agencies tend to monitor the big guys a lot closer and some pretty big fines are handed out when they come in under minimum.

[sdennison]

Came from Bejing, half Jet A half wonton soup. The truth will come out.

However, I agree with Dave, not a warbird. Let's move this to the maintenance hangar.

[engguy]

One of these.

1) Fuel quantity, due to over dumping, or leak.
2) All flyby wire controls, electrical/computer problem
3)Mechanical failure
4)Missed switch pilot error
5)A planned event(sabotage)

[CAPFlyer]

AAIB Initial Report -

http://www.aaib.gov.uk/latest_news/acci ... report.cfm

[Jet Mech]

Crash reports sounds like fuel left, but was it usable, or switch olagy wrong. Why would both fail to respond. The fact that no action has been taken with the rest of the fleet, makes me think it will be aircrew related.

Kurt

[warbird1]

The only other likely possibility would be fuel starvation, but I have a serious doubt that a crew would knowingly fly a plane dry when there were plenty of alternates along the way if they were running short.

Hello, Boeing test pilots meet Boeing Model 307. I rest my case.

[Matt Gunsch]

is the computer software in the 777 from microsoft ?