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Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:31 pm
Major Edw. Kiel CO 95th Attack Squadron 1938
Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:21 am
a classic pre- war era shot!!
Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:55 am
A sexy airplane. I love the one at the NMUSAF. It came in as a real basket case. Does anyone know if that is the only one left?
Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:06 am
The Northrop A17-A (36-207) at the NMUSAF is the only known survivor of the type.
See the USAFM (as it was known at that time) Friends Journal V23 #1 from Spring 2000 and the NMUSAF web site for more information.
Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:12 am
Thanks John, I wasn't sure if there was a project somewhere or not.
Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:40 am
Spectacular photo!
What a cool plane and the Major really captures the look!
Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:05 am
Jack, great picture, but I have a small point of order. The caption says 95th Attack Squadron. The Major's jacket clearly has a 37th AS ( Thunderbirds ) patch. The 17th Attack Group was composed of the 95th, 34th, and 37th.
The 17th Pursuit Group was redesignated Attack Group in 1935 and was redesignated 17th Bomb Group ( Medium ) in 1939 when they switched to the B-25.
Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:07 am
The Major's jacket clearly has a 37th AS ( Thunderbirds ) patch.
Sorry bout that .....I'm no patch guy. Just going by the caption on the NA photo.
I do know these units were the Doolittle Raiders
Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:22 am
You're right, Jack. When the USAAC decided that B-25s were the planes they were going to use on the raid, Doolittle asked for volunteers from the most experienced B-25 operators in the AAC. The Doolittle Raiders patch reflects all three squadrons and the Wright Test Arrowhead.
The 17th gained the name " Daddy of Them All " due to the fact that when they moved to Barksdale and shifted to the Marauder so many people were continually pulled form the Squadrons to form new Groups and Squadrons. The 17th finally shipped out for North Africa and later operated out of France.
When Korea atrted the 452nd was sent from Japan with their A-26s to Pusan, Korea. By law the 452nd could only be active for some many days, when the time was up a paper change was affected. The 452nd personnel and equipment was transferred to the 17th BG ( light ). The 95th, 37th, and 34th remained as the assigned squadrons.
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