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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:10 am 
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I know that we still have one that is flown out of Houston Texas with the Collins group . Are their any others that are still being flown out side the US ?

P.S. I think that their are Way tooooooooooo many Beer cans/ Soda cans that need to be reused before attacking a Classic on a Airfield for Scrap . For that all mighty dollar ! which it not that all mighty any more !

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Glen wrote:
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I know that we still have one that is flown out of Houston Texas with the Collins group . Are their any others that are still being flown out side the US ?

P.S. I think that their are Way tooooooooooo many Beer cans/ Soda cans that need to be reused before attacking a Classic on a Airfield for Scrap . For that all mighty dollar ! which it not that all mighty any more !


USAF is still operating QF-4 target drones. And is flying 3 of them on the airshow circuit with the Heritage flights.

I may be wrong, but I thought the Germans were still operating Phantoms as well.

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Germans - F-4Fs

Greeks F-4Es

Japanese F-4EJs

Koreans F-4Es, maybe a few Ds left

Turks F-4Es

Israelis may have a few F-4Es left but they were parking them as the seat pyros expired.

USAF F-4E drones, there are more than 3 of the jets painted for Heritage use. At least 4 are in SE Asia scheme with light gray undersides, 1 wraparound SE Asia, 1 Euro One sceme, 1 in shiny Hill Grey with orange tail. There may be more, some are at Holloman and some are at Tyndall.

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It's nice that the Air Force is saving a few of the old QF-4's for airshows. Finally someone is thinking clealy! :D I hope I get a chance to see a F-4 fly again. Thanks to the USAF I might be able to.

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Nathan, they aren't saving anything. Just because they are in shiny paint does not absolve them from their ultimate fate.

We expect that someday the Collings F-4D WILL be the last Phantom phlying.


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Hey Rick, I talked to one of the F-4 pilots, and he was pretty upbeat about the USAF keeping the F-4's around for the Heritage Flights.

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are fixed up, flown around then blown up. The F-4s at Reno two years ago went straight to the target range from Reno. Fly'em in rig them as drones blow them up. heaven forbid that anyone gets one to fly! :shock:


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are fixed up, flown around then blown up. The F-4s at Reno two years ago went straight to the target range from Reno. Fly'em in rig them as drones blow them up. heaven forbid that anyone gets one to fly! :shock:


Well at least they weren't murdered in museums.

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Mustangdriver, that doesn't mean that the fancy jets are safe. It just means that they'll paint more jets.


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are fixed up, flown around then blown up. The F-4s at Reno two years ago went straight to the target range from Reno. Fly'em in rig them as drones blow them up. heaven forbid that anyone gets one to fly! :shock:


Really??? I was there, I will put them in my memorial airplane photo album. I didn't know that thanks.

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I work closely with the east end of the ramp....I asked if I could have one but they were hesitant and I haven't flown one since linebacker 2 so it was probably for the best!


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There are a bunch of F-4s (and A-4s as well) available to purchase from the Israeli Gov't surplus agency!! Now if you just had the $$ and the right top level goverment connections to get one home. . . .

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Has there ever been any thought of trying to put together a flyby of all the F-4's?

The 3 or 4 USAF examples and the CF's one?

That would be one sweet flight!

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Here are the F4's that were at Reno in 04
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Heard that the AF is studying the use of retired F-16A's as target replacements for the Rhino. Hopefully that'll be the case, and a few will be saved! :wink:


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