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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 4:40 am 
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No its not an april fools day posting,

the following is currently advertised on ebay!



http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Bunker-full-of-WWII-ordnance-vehicles-and-aircraft_W0QQitemZ320234280504QQihZ011QQcategoryZ4375QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


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And we have an amazing story to tell...

What would you think if someone told you that a dangerous and long-forgotten secret WWII bunker was sitting under the Bundaberg Airport? Chances are you'd be thinking something along the lines of "How nice, Crazy Conspiracy Theorists..."

What would you think if the same person told you that said bunker contained live WWII aerial bombs in bulk storage along with .303 SMLEs, .303 BREN LMGs, Owen SMGs, Browning M2 .50 HMGs and ammunition to suit? Chances are you'd be thinking "Someone forgot to take their medication this morning..."

What would you think if someone told you that there was a complete WWII Jeep and at least three partially disassembled WWII fighter aircraft sitting in this concrete tomb? Chances are you couldn't say a thing because you'd be laughing so hard at the ridiculousness of it all...

So are these "bunker" stories all Pub rumours and Urban legend?

What if someone told you that they could prove it was all true? Would you laugh and walk away or would it pique your interest?

If you said that you were one of those whose interest would be piqued, then read on.

Unlike most of the urban legends we have heard, there are no Harley Davidson WLA motorcycles in their crates at this site, just a bunch of unstable, deteriorating ordnance under the runway of a major regional airport along with some old warplanes in bits. The Bundaberg site is just one of over 250 sites in Queensland alone that we are researching. Of those 250 sites, we have 8 confirmed so far. These Official ABMM Bunker Research Reports allow you to see these bunkers and counter-invasion stores sites for yourself.

Here's what you get:

A CD-ROM containing a powerpoint file which goes IN-DEPTH into the Bundaberg Bunker.


I'm not connected to the claim, nor endorsing its bonefides, buyer beware?

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Notice in the wording the operative notification as to the validity,


BUNK...er.


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Here's a little more info straight out of an "informant report", take it as we have, as an unverifiable claim...

It is but one tiny piece of the puzzle we have been solving.

"I visited the Bundaberg site in 1998 (XXX-X). Now the D.O.D/D.E.O didn’t know where the entry location (That goes for most locations), So It was up to me to find the location. I spent 3 months searching the Bundaberg airport grounds for an entry point, The only hints I had was that an airport worker in 1977 had found a way in through a drain when his Jack Russell chased a rat in there and in 1996 or 1997 two men found there way through a air vent in a paddock near XXXXXXXXX. The men were arrested for trespassing on commonwealth land and the air vent was blown in.

So I spent a good 3 months looking for a way in. Finally I found a storage drop-off report from 1980 saying that on the 15-06-1980 32 crates of SLR & Ammunition were to placed in to storage at site XXX-X via end Runway run off Entry and the last report from site XXX-X was it closure on 01-11-1980. So I looked over & over the end run way (with planes zooming 10 feet over head). Then one day while exploring the XXXXXXX I came a sixer (tripped) in to a depression in the ground. I thought “This is odd” this depression was a perfect 1.5 X 1 meter rectangle and I thought to myself “About bloody time”.

So I rang my supervisor and said “I found it but I need dig it out” he replied “well go down to the local hardware store and buy yourself a shovel”. I said “What really” he replied “Yep I'll get you a van for cover and someone to help you”.

So 2 days later this old fella turns up with a council van and we get to work, took us 7 hours to dig this thing clear. We walked in and it was like a blast from the past. The first thing I saw was a old jeep, then I turned to my left in amazement an whole ww2 war bird just sitting there. I was like kid in a candy store, I walked past the plane and pointed my flashlight to the right and there was two planes with there wings folded and no tails, there was a clipboard on the wall referring to the planes.

Then my eyes peeled open it said A6M-52 (ZERO). The clipboard detailed the runs and specs like max speed, weights, ceiling and weapons. I was in shock what were ww2 Japanese zeros painted in U.S colors. I asked the old fella about the planes. He said he had "helped in removing Japanese aircraft painted in u.s colors from a place called eagle field or something like that".

So we walked down more and found a pair of wings to my left, to my right and further up just aircraft parts. I walked back down turned right and there’s this corridor with 7 rooms.

Room 1 was full of ammo, same for rooms 2&3, Room 4 had 20-25 50 Cal. Browning Heavy Machine guns lined up across the wall and then 60 crates of 303 lee Enfield 10 to a box, Room 5 40 creates of bren guns 5 to a box and 50 crates of 303 L-E, Room 6 had 100 crates 8 to a box and a heap of ammo, Room 7 same as rm 6.

So walked out and to our left to see what past the jeep and there’s a row of old hospital privacy screens so we pushed open these screens and there’s a wall of bombs stacked all the way up to the ceiling. The old fella said “better not light up then ah” so we walked down this wall of bombs (They were fat as 44 gal drums) to the end and there’s these huge crates. I said “what do think is in there” he said “Planes”. OK then. When we were about to leave he said “wait I forgot something” he runs back with 2 ammo boxes and I said “come on put them back” he said “when are they gonna use them”.

So we fill in the hole and he drives me back to the hotel, just as I get out he said “Oi here use as a doorstop” He hands me this 6 pound solid shot I said “thanks & goodbye”. I never saw that old fella again. So the next day I faxed my report and flew home."

For more information on the Bundaberg saga, see our old Australian Bunker Project page on Bundaberg:

http://www.australianbunkermilitarym.../Bundaberg.htm

should be resolved one way or the other by the middle of the year??

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Search on for Bundaberg WWII bunkers

The Defence Department will use the latest technology to try and confirm if there are any

World War II bunkers under Bundaberg city airport.

The Bundaberg City Council says the military will use a ground penetration radar and magnetic

sub-surface equipment to look for bunkers in airport land.

It has long been local legend that there are underground bunkers left from the war at the

airport.

Mayor Kay McDuff says they should know by the end of the year if there is anything there.

"These are very advanced technologies and no doubt will come at quite a cost," she said.

"All I can say is that the council is very appreciative of their response and we hope that we

will have some results from their work by the middle of the year."

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I haven't seen anything on that one in a long time...

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Hi All

I have seen the images from the bunker site, there is defentely something showing in the ground at about 6 meters below the surface. I figure if the australian goverment was anything like the british at the time
there is a fair possibility that it does bear some credibility. From what I have heard the plane ( s ) in there are of japanese origin as itentified by the ser. no. I guess until these people get access and explore the site no one will ever know. Check out their website:
www.australianbunkermilitarymuseum.org/


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I just knew they'd find Jimmy Hoffa eventually.

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Dieter,

I have no doubt there is a concrete structure in the ground, but wether its a bunker full of booty, or simply a septic tank full of B#*sh*t will need to wait until someone does formally investigate it.

However I find it surprising that any credibility is being placed in a supposed anonymous disclosure of Dept of Defence clandistine report of a support 3 month project to find it in 1998, that refers to its use in 1980 to store SLR ammunition, yet is so dad's army that the DoD employee tasked with this important project for 3 months (and apparantly sent from interstate??) needs to buy a shovel and spend 7 hours digging it clear (with the help of a local council worker and his van as a cover??), and then having discovered the buried treasure Agent 69 calmly flies home and lodges his report, and nothing is done for a further 10 years??, and the council worker, the Agent, and their mates never consider re-visiting the site themselves to liberate the valuable aircraft, or take photos or publicise the find?

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I don't know how anyone can believe these stories.

I mean when WW2 ended, and all those soldiers de-mobilised, and all the shipyard workers went home, and thousands of aircraft and ships came to port; and millions of pieces of equipment needed to be taken care of....well we all KNOW that each peice of material was disposed of in its proper fashion.

After all who would believe that the Army would leave a thousand bombers on Biak! Preposterous!

And; would be foolish enough to believe that the Americans would leave stacks of heavy machine guns and ammunition in oil filled trenchs; in the Solomans for rebels to use 60 years later.

OR the story of the big "hole" at a former AAF base in Austrialia full of 50 cal BMGs and Thompson SMGs.

Or the one about the three U-boats still in thier pen in Germany! What a crock!

I mean Lord, who actually believes that the de-mobilising service men cut corners in order to get the "heck out of dodge" and back to thier Civies! You know, do things like bury equipment; dump it into the ocean; or simply walk away from them.

Wow, next you'll be telling me that the Americans took thier entire Airforce and scrapped it after the war!

Seriously; as a trained investigator, I have learned never to take on any subject on which I have a strong opionion. Let the facts speak for them selves.

I know it is hard to prove a negative, but; one should not believe the earth is flat; simply because "everyone knows its true".

Wierd stuff does happen. Lets not be gullable, but; also we should not be dismissive.

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Jimkendall, do I detect a slight tone of sarcasm here?? :D

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OR the story of the big "hole" at a former AAF base in Austrialia full of 50 cal BMGs and Thompson SMGs.


Ahhhh fact actually.......a considerable number of 50cal's, Hispano 20mm, and 1928 thompsons were removed from the hole near the Archerfield aerodrome, plus sundry WW2 Japanese small arms, armourers tools, I know as I personally witnessed them being removed in 1992. More images here:

www.ozatwar.com/quarry.htm

www.ozatwar.com/nyefoto.htm

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Or the one about the three U-boats still in thier pen in Germany! What a crock!


Ahhh again fact :

3 Type XXI boats in the Elbe II in HamburgThese boats were virtually missing until 1985 when the boats were discovered through research by Jak P Mallmann-Showell, Wolfgang Hirschfeld and Walter Cloots in the mostly demolished Elbe II U-boat bunker in Hamburg.The Elbe II bunker is located on the southern bank of the Elbe river at the Vulkanhafen. This area is within the Freeport of Hamburg and to access it you should have to present your passport.

www.uboat.net/gallery/index.html?gallery=Elbe-1

As for this specific story, hey its makes a change from the "Spitfires / Jeeps in crates story near in Oakey/Toowoomba/Brisbane", that I have heard for the last 35years


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The story of course could be true, but if you believe in it you probably believe the WMD fables Bush/Cheney put out.
Is it even remotely logical that these guys went to all the trouble to dig out the entrance and then covered their great discoveries back up without having any photos as proof or bringing anyone else in?

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Again, remember the P-38 that just "appeared" in England. Who would believe that?

It's ok to have faith and to believe... it's not like they are chasing aliens around Roswell. :lol: I hope it all turns out to be true!


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I think I read the P-38 was know to be there from the days it crashed, before the tide covered it up. It was not really a mystery. Django, when I was a kid I enjoyed the Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves( not related to Enron) but that was a myth and I'd bet this is too.

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Dang Bill, I own a Mortgage Company. As far as Jimmy Hoffa goes, I heard they found him when they got all of that "makeup" and paint off of Earl Schieb. These stories seem to pop up all the time, but there always seems to be some hinderance in any kind of recovery.

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Yes but someone at some point in 1945 knew they were there too. They couldn't have gotten there all by themselves. ;) :lol:

Again, not like they are planning on a recovery for the B-32 on the moon. ;) :lol: Hahaha!

Are all the captured Zeros that would have had US markings accounted for?


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