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Help find Steve Fossett!

Sat Sep 08, 2007 6:47 pm

This was posted on the Citabria Pilots Forum....
Would you like to help find Steve Fossett?

Some of you know that I work for Amazon Web Services (a separate arm
of Amazon.com). One of the Web Services I work with is called
Mechanical Turk, and it allows people to perform tasks and submit the
results for use by computers. You can help search satellite imagery,
looking for Steve. See http://www.mturk.com/mturk/preview?groupId=9TSZK4G35XEZJZG21T60 for more info, and http://www.mturk.com to
learn how to sign up as a "worker".

The basic idea is to enroll as many people as possible to search
these images for any sign of the aircraft.

I'd like to enlist everyone to help look for him. This is not a
commercial pitch…

Mike


I'm sure the more that help the better.... I pray we are not too late.

Sun Sep 09, 2007 12:29 am

Where is the satellite imagery coming from? What resolution is it? How is it being searched?

Sun Sep 09, 2007 11:04 pm

Randy,

I can tell you from experience that the resolution on those that they are using is no where near the resolution that I have seen in images when I was in the Air Force.

I am surprised that they have not up loaded a much more higher resolution of the area then they have on the area.

I have been spot checking areas on my Google Pro and again, I have seen better resolution photos when I was in the Air Force at Offutt AFB ( SAC Hqrs ) then what they are using.

They should ask the Air Force to get better images to them for looking.

Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:25 am

they should ask the military to throw up some UAV's. Good practice for you know where. A couple of Predators up there 24 hours stright would be a lot better than three manned aircraft for a few hours each, eh?

Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:51 am

muddyboots wrote:they should ask the military to throw up some UAV's. Good practice for you know where. A couple of Predators up there 24 hours stright would be a lot better than three manned aircraft for a few hours each, eh?


It's not like there's a war going on or anything, where those Preds might be needed.

Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:58 am

what war? it was a invasion :) and undeclared and that aint a war its a slight annoyance i think :)

but UAVs would be better off then planes... to find the wreckage

Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:27 am

Sabre,

You mean this invasion?

Image

You mean the subsequent war that invasion started.

Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:52 am

Actually, Sabre is correct.

U.S. presence in either Afghanistan or Iraq (and others) is not as a result of a declaration of war on the part of the U.S. congress which is how a war is Constitutionally (i.e. legally - Rule of Law) suppose to happen.

From wiki:

Article I, Section 8, Clause 11 of the United States Constitution, sometimes referred to as the War Powers Clause, vests in the Congress the exclusive power to declare war, in the following wording:

"To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water";


IMHO - "W" hornswaggled many and pushed his agenda through the U.N.

So technically, if we didn't declare war, then it is an invasion.

regards,

t~
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Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:55 am

oscardeuce wrote:Sabre,

You mean this invasion?

Image

You mean the subsequent war that invasion started.


Yeah...I wonder what the deathcount on the Yemeni and Saudi conspirator
evildoers is adding up to these days? Durn Wahabi scum...:roll:

Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:49 pm

Hate to say but Australia was dragged into the war.. illegally, we the people didnt get to vote to send our troops there did we??? ..

No our current prime minister Howard just sent them into afghanistan and iraq and now he wonder 6yrs on why he going to loose the next election with 35% of the vote in his favour .... and future PM Rudd who is coasting along at 65% nearly will win when he withdraws us from iraq.

Hate to say but on TV last night was a show about amputtees survivors from iraq, it made chilling viewiing and it becoming normal in the USA due to this very war.

the war might be VERY popular in the homefront in USA with mounting dead and wounded each week in some quarters but back in Australia ,most of us disapprove of it and know it was illegal going into iraq and until i see a formal declaration of war??? document ............it aint so...

Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:49 pm

True the Congress declares "war". This is more likely in the reprisal vein, and Congress did vote to allow the President to take action. We are not fighting a country, we are fighting an ideal. I'll have to review my copy of the Constitution, but I think war this war is a bit harder to define, but the Congress did vote approval for the action.

Since when did the USA, UK, and Aussies become such wimps that they allow an attack, and then do not wipe those who attack us off the Earth? I'd treat an attack on Perth, similar to an attack on NYC. The Aussies are our allies, Viet Nam should have taught us how to treat our allies.
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Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:49 pm

Randy Haskin wrote:
muddyboots wrote:they should ask the military to throw up some UAV's. Good practice for you know where. A couple of Predators up there 24 hours stright would be a lot better than three manned aircraft for a few hours each, eh?


It's not like there's a war going on or anything, where those Preds might be needed.

we have YOU, silly. Now get your ass back in the drivers seat!
:twisted:
*cracks whip*

Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:11 pm

youse might wana check the vietnam war, for all it glory it to is the biggest war ever that was undeclared... and again a illegal invasion .. note the US never offically delcared war on North Vietnam did they. Thye merely upped the attacks every few weeks and on and until it was a war by all means.. but never offical in political circles.. go check you will be surprised.

That the only thing iraq and vietnam have in common.

Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:27 pm

Not a surprise, I knew VN was "undeclared". As to similarities. It is being fought PC, The enemy hides among civilians, and Jane Fonda still sucks.

Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:30 pm

Guys, WTF? :?: A thread about a fellow downed aviator has everyone yelling about the war? No one here is ever going to be on the same page with that subject, so let's all be cool.
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