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When Hollywood Ruled The Skies - Volumes 1 through 4 by Bruce Oriss


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:42 pm 
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hello all

same clipart disc, couple more pics; I assume this is Davis-Monthan, or AMARC or whatever it was called back then?

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Sad end to a really sexy airplane (and this is coming from somebody who normally thumbs his nose at kerosene burners.)

How may B-58s were built, anyway?


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...and they are all gone now. What a shame. :(


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There are a handful in museums. Stunning when you see one in person. They just look fast. They look like there is nothing but powerplants and minimal wing/fuse to carry said units.

Here is a link to Wiki that has links to the survivors.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-58

Search one out if you haven't before. Well worth it in my opinion.

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I've only seen a couple in person..would have loved to have seen one in the air!

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Lone Star Flight Museum has the one that used to be in Ft Worth. Chanute Air Museum in Rantoul, IL also has one .


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Rick, when I was in the front cockpit on 0668 at LSFM, the largest instrument in the panel is the fuel flow gauge. Its about 1/4 larger than the artifical horizon.

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Well you are feeding 4 J-79s. Lets see,... 2 J79s are burning about 20 lbs a mile. Using a nonexact correllation that would put the fuel burn around 40 lbs a mile. 40 lbs / 6.8 lbs per gal = almost 6 gallons per mile. The F-4 idles at 100 lbs per minute, I would imagine that the B-58 is doubling that also.

Makes you understand why the KC-135s are getting worn out. Without the tanker fleet there would have been hardly any mission capability.


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i always wondered how the 58 dropped it's bombload with that center pod?? was it jettisoned prior to drop?? or were bombs crammed into that pod too??? i can hardly imagine little bomb bay doors on that pod!!!

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tom d. friedman wrote:
i always wondered how the 58 dropped it's bombload with that center pod?? was it jettisoned prior to drop?? or were bombs crammed into that pod too??? i can hardly imagine little bomb bay doors on that pod!!!


The pod was 2 parts, the lower was fuel, the upper, nukes.
What I would love to see is a video of the nose gear retracting. I have stood in the nose wheel well and figured out all the motions it had to go thru, but would like to see it in action.


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At the NMUSAF they have a smallmodel that shows how the nosewheel retracts. Pretty neat. Just ask one of the volunteers.

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We had the AC-47 at the Chanute air Museum airshow a couple weeks ago and I got to get up close to the record setting B-58. It is a Beautiful airplane. :D


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The govt. frowns on civilians operating planes that can deliver nuclear arms to other continents.
The Yankee Air Force owns a B-52, with the understanding that they can never fly it. It would be to valuable to an aggressive nation.
I'm sure it would be the same for the B-58.
Sure, it's 40 years obsolete for us, but it would still be cutting edge for most of the world.


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There's a trainer version of the B-58 at the Grissom AFB museum. Gotta get down there one of these days...

As for the flying the Yankee B-52, the last time I was up close to it (two or three years ago) the outer wings were so rotten with corrosion I'd be afraid to even move it. That's not intended as a slam at the museum, just the unfortnate and inevitable result of having to display an aircraft outside. At least she's been spared the scapper's torch!

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not much choice lately at Yankee Air Force, the museum burned down a few years ago!


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