Warbird Information Exchange

Mr. Rohr:

Your efforts are nothing short of phenomenal.. With that said, some constructive criticism.: Question 1: How seriously will the Navy take you if you use grammar like this example from an earlier post:



You also seem too argumentative for them. If you argue with them in any way, then they'll say "Who is this guy"? "We work for the gov't, and we don't have to answer to him"..Then they'll tell jokes with Capt. Ras about your whole meeting.

I really think you should have someone from the E.A.A. do it, or a really smooth talker. A guy or gal who will make the Navy agree with them without the Navy ever realizing it.. I doubt if you are slick enough to do it.

This is just a reality check.

Chris

Okay, the grammar is distracting and difficult, and his petulance can be annoying. But Rob Rohr has lots of good stuff to contribute to the efforts to restore aircraft. He is well informed, educated and connected, and has done enough reading and research to get himself into a position to be, if nothing else, a POINT OF VIEW in guiding how USN aircraft recovery should be handled. He has one idea in his head, and it is a good one- the longer the USN waits for itself to be in a position to recover certain historical aircraft, the less of that aircraft is going to be there. He has another idea in his head- if somebody puts effort into something expensive, like say recovering a wildat and restoring it, they should have some means of recovering their expenses.

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I think Chris that you'll find that the Colonels brain is running half a revolution faster than his fingers can type and if he's really excited you might just about as well forget trying to figure out what he's saying until he spells it out seven or eight posts later. Reading Rob is like doing the Times crossword, it can be really hard but when you finally figure it out you say hmmmm, that was really smart.

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sounds almost like the results you get from some of the voice recognition software when the user, regardless of how much they use it, gets excited. now that can make for some funny reading!
I know how that works though. sometimes when I am typing fast the letters get transposed, I skip words because the brain has already gone about 5 words past the point where the finger's memory is full so it misses an unnecessary word or punctuation and, if he is like me also, and does most of his work on the computer at ridiculous hours of the day then fatigue may also be a very large factor as well.
as for being passionate, surely if we got almost any of us worked up enough over a certain subject and were continually pushing their buttons their typing would suffer too, for the Col, it turns out to be a combination of the words warbirds and US and navy ( words seperated to prevent unnecessary excitment for the Col. )
If only we could find a few elected officals with the same level of zeal and enthusiam in our respective govt's to get behind the warbird movement then we'd see some truly amazing events regarding salvage, recovery, restoration and flying of warbirds. I'd even settle for 1 of those in a sufficiently high place of power in the US, as long as he left the aussie warbirds alone and here.

For sake of conversation, I am the navy. I could care less that a spell check is not used as long as I understand the message. From the get go, Rob was and is the only one that I have conversed with in the forum that was fervent in his initial delivery but willing to listen to another version. Since then he has championed the position that cooler heads prevail if their is a dialogue. Thus, I offered to host the first round. It has been his nickle with long distance, it has been his tiime trying to round up worthwhile participants, it has been his desire along with other individuals to open up the otherwise holy grail and look inside. There will not be a problem.

You have to understand that Rob finally figured out a thread that we all have in common and can not shirk our responsibility of, be it mandated by job descriptions, the law or a moral one. That is, the preservation for the future of something that at one time, was some of the most historic machines ever made by man.....

Buddy, you've hit the nail on the head AND stuffed it in a nutshell! As long as I've known Rob, saving the aircraft, above all else, has been his goal. And he's not afread of what it will take. On the contrary, he is ready willing and able to take on the "dirty" jobs no one else wants to do. When we were starting the Maine Air Museum, there was a problem with getting any work done. Rob came up to me and a couple of other guys who were of a like mind after a meeting and said "this work needs to be done, let's do it." We spent the next 6 months doing work that hadn't been done through "proper channels" in the previous 2 years! Of coures, not going through proper channels was a no-no. And in the end, he was forced out of the museum for not going through proper channels and playing the politics. You see, Rob will fight the good fight but he wont play dirty politics. And the Maine Air Museum would probably still be waiting to get that first job done. Fortunately for the Maine Air Museum, two of the original four stayed on with the museum (I left when Rob was ousted in protest against their dirty pool) and they were able to finish what we started(with not a lot of support), getting the Museum to were it is to day, as it were As I've said before, Rob is the man for the job. Someone else might do the presenting, but Rob will do the digging and his facts will be right.
Don

Heck, I thought all folks form thee NE speeked like that.
Humor aside, you should get Jeff Wright aka jcw involved. He's the only
person I know of that has gotten the Navy to sign over title of their aircraft peacefully. At least 2 SBD, NP-1 and some others. Their coorespondence to him goes something like 'we don't care about that junk-take it it's yours'!!

rob
contact me off line jeffrey.wright@portland.af.mil i have a proposal you might be able to help with that might serve everyones intrest...

jcw

Col.,
Our B-25 crew call Jeff 'The Col' also (guess because he is one). Ask him about the time his dog ran off and he chased her down with his Champ!

now there's a cute thought. I wonder if he ever missplet any equations and got ones that fit better?

Hey Rob:



I don't think I can do a better job dealing with the bureaucrats than you. In addition it appears that you can bring out the best in these Navy folks.