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Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:05 pm
We learned this weekend at Goshen FreedomFest that the Skyraider is (of course) still useful in it's original role, winning the hearts and minds of the locals.
Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:12 pm

please explain those white weird hats...
Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:23 pm
A large portion of the crowd at the Goshen FreedomFest was from the Amish community. Since I am no expert on the Amish religion, I have included info from Wikepedia.
Amish
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This article is about Old Order Amish, but also refers to other Amish sects. For other uses, see Amish (disambiguation).
Amish
(Amisch or Amische)
Total population
198,000 (2000 est. for U.S.)
Regions with significant populations
United States, especially Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Iowa, Maryland and Wisconsin; Ontario, Canada
Languages
Pennsylvania Dutch (called "Deitsch" by the Amish), Alemannic German, English
Religions
Anabaptist Christianity
Related ethnic groups
Germans, Swiss German; See Pennsylvania Dutch (the Amish are included among the Pennsylvania Dutch)
The Amish (Amisch or Amische) are an Anabaptist Christian denomination in the United States and Canada (Ontario and Manitoba) known for their plain dress and avoidance of modern conveniences such as cars and electricity. The Amish separate themselves from mainstream society for religious reasons: They do not join the military, apply for Social Security benefits, take out insurance or accept any form of financial assistance from the government.
Most speak a German dialect known as Pennsylvania Dutch (Pennsylvania German or Pennsylvanie Deutsch) at home and in church services, and learn English in school. The Amish are divided into separate fellowships consisting of geographical districts or congregations. Each district is fully independent and has its own Ordnung, or set of unwritten rules.
Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:56 pm
They might be Mennonites sitting by the Spad. We have a lot of Amish and a few Mennonites around my area. I had no idea they liked warbirds though!

I know a few Amish. I even helped one fix an old barn one time. I was surprised when he told me, "if that was my barn I'd light a match to it"!

They are very friendly and VERY hard workers.
Mennonites are like Amish but they believe in a few more commodities then the Amish do. Good food I tell ya though!
Don't look down on them. They are very nice people and don't take things for granted.
-Nate
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Nathan on Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:02 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:56 pm
In the words of Mr. Spock, "Highly illogical."
Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:21 pm
Around these parts they could be Memonites or from the large Russian community.
Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:30 pm
I'm originally from Elkhart County (where Goshen is located). I'd almost bet they're Mennonites (very close to the Amish religion). Most of the Amish women I've seen wear black bonnets, not white.....but I'm no expert by any means....
Todd
Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:23 pm
They also don't wear flip flops. Mennonites, I think.
Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:35 pm
Who owns the AD?
Rich
Sun Jul 01, 2007 10:06 pm
ltdann wrote:Who owns the AD?
Rich
The fine gentleman who started this thread.
Sun Jul 01, 2007 10:49 pm
I sincerly doubt they were Amish. Unless you saw a lot of Horse drawn buggies out in the parking lot.
Could be Mennonites. An even more technologically open minded sect of this religious culture would be the German Baptists. They looked like the Amish and Mennonites on the outside but drive imports and have Blackberries.
In Ohio here we have all different kinds.
As far as the women go, their dresses all follow the same similar design. But you more easily guess the sect their from by how bright the colors are and how loud the patterns. Amish dresses being the most subdued of course.
Shay
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Sun Jul 01, 2007 11:23 pm
I sincerly doubt they were Amish. Unless you saw a lot of Horse drawn buggies out in the parking lot.
Could be Mennonites. An even more technologically open minded sect of this religious culture would be the German Baptists. They looked like the Amish and Mennonites on the outside but drive imports and have Blackberries.
In Ohio here we have all different kinds.
As far as the women go, their dresses all follow the same similar design. But you more easily guess the sect their from by how bright the colors are and how loud the patterns. Amish dresses being the most subdued of course.
Not that it matters to me, but I talked to many of them and they said they were Amish. They told me that there were both Amish and Mennonites in the community. They were all there with horse drawn buggys or bicycles, but they did have modern shoes, no buttons on the clothes, and no patterns on the clothing. Having grown up in rural mid Missouri, I had seen many Mennonites but no Amish, the people I took the pictures at the airshow described themselves as Amish. They were alot of fun to talk to and very inquisitive about the warbirds. I do think that most of them were there for the outstanding fireworks display.
Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:53 am
I think I may have to revise my comment. Amish like to go barefoot (everywhere) during the summer. All those girls are wearing flip flops, which may simply be because they are on that hot concrete. I know they wouldn't normally wear them like we do here in LA. They're all also about Junior High school in age, which is when they are allowed the most freedom to do "wild and crazy" things. Amish tend to actually help their children do this sort of thing as a safety relief valve, despite their pacifist ways. It would never have occured to me to look at this particular facet of their culture, but thanks for turning me onto it-think I might do somthing with it.
And, since nobody has said it: Great shot and I love your Skyraider!
Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:31 am
Eric, how did they like the air show?
Robbie
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