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Re: Heads-up Airventure 2012

Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:20 pm

Im going...first time ever for me...

Will help my Dixie Wing colleagues at Fond Du Lac with rides but will likely help out at the rides signup desk one day...hope to see fellow WIX'ers there!

KK

Re: Heads-up Airventure 2012

Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:09 pm

Rauhbatz wrote:Im going...first time ever for me...

Will help my Dixie Wing colleagues at Fond Du Lac with rides but will likely help out at the rides signup desk one day...hope to see fellow WIX'ers there!

KK



Nice thing about Fond du Lac is that--even though an OSH overflow--it winds up with more aircraft and campers than most fly-ins!

All the Dixie Wingers should take a break Thursday p.m. and come get fed & watered at WIXFEST VII.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=46329

Enjoy your week!

Re: Heads-up Airventure 2012

Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:33 pm

Mark Allen M wrote:
k5083 wrote:In my last post I wrote:

k5083 wrote:It definitely pays to keep an eye on the parking areas and taxiways and be ready if something cool looks like it's going to head out for a photo or pleasure flight. You never know what is going to fly and when.


It occurs to me that in this day and age, there ought to be a network of guys communicating in real time about what is happening on the grounds. Things like "Looks like they're preflighting the P-40C!" or "The Stearman 4E is about to depart" or "A Grumman Goose just splashed down at the seaplane base." Does such a thing exist and, if not, do we have time to set one up? It could be as simple as a list of twitterers who can mutually subscribe to each other's feeds and pledge to tweet what they see going on. Or whatever. It just seems like harnessing the power of social media would make it a lot easier to cover the often unannounced and unscheduled movements around the field.

There is an official text-message alert service somewhat along these lines but it can only cover so much. http://airventure.org/news/2012/120628_textalerts.html.

August


I would think some sort of alerting system would be outstanding for most of us who simply enjoy watching such events, but I think your proposal would suffer from a double edged sword more times than not. I would imagine there are folks who would not want too many others knowing of a particular warbird's preflight action or activity at first until those same folks completed their photoshoots etc. Not saying all are that way but you know how some of these "photographers" are about their "space" :wink: ... and then you add the owners/pilots, groundhandlers and crowd control people to the equation. I would assume all those folks would rather most people at Oshkosh not know about pre-flighting until after taxiing simply to keep from any disturbances. Just a thought.


Its gonna be what you said a double edge sword. You are gonna get some buffoons who are not real warbird fans texting about food, texting about a generic aerobatic act, someone bitching that a plane didn't show up, or wasting time with a common warbird like a T-6. If you don't have unlimited free texting, you will get rediculous charges - with that many people there you will get a constant barrage.

Re: Heads-up Airventure 2012

Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:35 pm

Ouch....buffoons who are not "real warbird fans" and those common warbirds like the T-6. Funny, the more I work in, on, and around the T-6 the more enjoyable it gets. The T-6 is a bit more common because it is within the means of the more "common" warbird enthusiast to restore, own and operate. It is still in no way cheap. In todays market, a T-6 can be purchased for the price of a nice 3 bedroom house with a couple acres of land. Whereas the more exotic warbirds can run $500k, $750K, to multi-millions. Not really within a "common" man's means. Personally I love it when a T-6 taxi's by.,

I've seen many a discussion here on this board go off on some off-topic slant, recall discussions of food, generic aerobatic acts, and of course bitching that a plane didn't show up, or wasn't painted like the poster would have liked.

If I make Oshkosh this year, it will be my first time attending. I look forward to walking amoung the rows of T-6's. I will go look at the Mustangs, Cat's and Spits. I will even look at the laison, L-Birds as I would love to be able to find a Piper L4 or Taylorcraft L2 project to restore. I know for a fact that I would not be able afford to operate, let alone purchase one of those "common" T-6's, SNJ's, or Harvards.

So I guess we all all buffoons...or maybe we aren't true "real warbird fans" after all......

Sorry for the rant.

Warren Laurendine
Crewmember - Race 22
Tin Lizzie Air Racing Team
T-6 Class - Reno Air Races

Re: Heads-up Airventure 2012

Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:15 am

Race 22 Crew wrote:In todays market, a T-6 can be purchased for the price of a nice 3 bedroom house with a couple acres of land.


In my neck of the woods you could purchase a fleet of T-6's for the price of a nice 3 bedroom house and no acres ... :( My first warbird ride was in a T6, It was at Oshkosh and I loved it. :wink:

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Re: Heads-up Airventure 2012

Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:20 pm

Mark Allen M wrote:
Race 22 Crew wrote: ...My first warbird ride was in a T6, It was at Oshkosh and I loved it. :wink:

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Just so our good readers realize this can't possibly be from OSH since there are only 18 Texans in the pic. :wink:


And speaking of pics: I suppose it's just about time to open up the OSH request line again. You folks all know what Al can do. And although I'm not a photographer, I can aim and push the button on a point-n-click with the best of 'em.

I plan to be on the grounds first either Monday or Tuesday (depends on weather), and then again Thursday and Friday.

Re: Heads-up Airventure 2012

Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:40 pm

Dan K wrote:And speaking of pics: I suppose it's just about time to open up the OSH request line again. You folks all know what Al can do. And although I'm not a photographer, I can aim and push the button on a point-n-click with the best of 'em.


Take photos of anything and everything that's not common ... :wink: I think I'm stopping by OSH Thursday and Friday on my way East. Been a while :D

Re: Heads-up Airventure 2012

Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:47 pm

Mark Allen M wrote:
I think I'm stopping by OSH Thursday and Friday on my way East. Been a while :D


If you are in town Thursday, then by all means stop by the WIX Gathering at my place. Details posted here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=46329

Zack

Re: Heads-up Airventure 2012

Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:48 pm

I'll be shooting everything I can and am excited to use my new toy this year.

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:D

Re: Heads-up Airventure 2012

Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:06 pm

Mark Allen M wrote:
Dan K wrote:And speaking of pics: I suppose it's just about time to open up the OSH request line again. You folks all know what Al can do. And although I'm not a photographer, I can aim and push the button on a point-n-click with the best of 'em.


Take photos of anything and everything that's not common ...



Note to self: Mark wants no pics of Hellcats or Corsairs... pop2
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Re: Heads-up Airventure 2012

Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:29 pm

Race 22 Crew wrote:Ouch....buffoons who are not "real warbird fans" and those common warbirds like the T-6. Funny, the more I work in, on, and around the T-6 the more enjoyable it gets. The T-6 is a bit more common because it is within the means of the more "common" warbird enthusiast to restore, own and operate. It is still in no way cheap. In todays market, a T-6 can be purchased for the price of a nice 3 bedroom house with a couple acres of land. Whereas the more exotic warbirds can run $500k, $750K, to multi-millions. Not really within a "common" man's means. Personally I love it when a T-6 taxi's by.,

I've seen many a discussion here on this board go off on some off-topic slant, recall discussions of food, generic aerobatic acts, and of course bitching that a plane didn't show up, or wasn't painted like the poster would have liked.

If I make Oshkosh this year, it will be my first time attending. I look forward to walking amoung the rows of T-6's. I will go look at the Mustangs, Cat's and Spits. I will even look at the laison, L-Birds as I would love to be able to find a Piper L4 or Taylorcraft L2 project to restore. I know for a fact that I would not be able afford to operate, let alone purchase one of those "common" T-6's, SNJ's, or Harvards.

So I guess we all all buffoons...or maybe we aren't true "real warbird fans" after all......

Sorry for the rant.

Warren Laurendine
Crewmember - Race 22
Tin Lizzie Air Racing Team
T-6 Class - Reno Air Races



Don't get me wrong - I love the sound of the T-6 and would love to see one land/take off at Orlando Executive Airport while I am working there but will there be less than 50 at OSH? I don't need 50+ texts every time a T-6 lands/takes off. Is there any WWII era plane more common still flying?

Maybe I should have said L-39 or Nanchang CJ-6 in my example of what a noob would text for everytime one of those landed

Re: Heads-up Airventure 2012

Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:22 pm

Zachary wrote:If you are in town Thursday, then by all means stop by the WIX Gathering at my place. Details posted here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=46329

Zack


Thank you for the invite :D I'd certainly love to stop by and say hello. I'd be driving up from Chicago if all goes well. Need to be in New York by Saturday.

Dan K wrote:Note to self: Mark wants no pics of Hellcats or Corsairs... pop2


Naw!!! those types are boring!!!, especially after all the LIFE photos I have been posting lately :wink: but I do want to see that F4F/FM2 that I keep hearing about. BTW anything else warbird wise we may expect to see that is under the radar? Any surprises we may get to see?

Re: Heads-up Airventure 2012

Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:22 pm

Mark Allen M wrote:
Naw!!! those types are boring!!!, especially after all the LIFE photos I have been posting lately :wink: but I do want to see that F4F/FM2 that I keep hearing about. BTW anything else warbird wise we may expect to see that is under the radar? Any surprises we may get to see?



A handful mentioned back on page 4 that are hopefuls.

OSH 2011 was supposed to be F2G Race #74's coming-out party, but motor puked. Maybe--just maybe...

Back in March, John Garric's Potez 63 replica was reportedly "close to a first flight". Hard to imagine nobody would've reported it airborne, but...

Don Hansen's Fw 190?

Still haven't heard from Doug what surprise(s) Cavanaugh might supply (hint, hint).

Re: Heads-up Airventure 2012

Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:23 pm

Dan K wrote:

A handful mentioned back on page 4 that are hopefuls.

OSH 2011 was supposed to be F2G Race #74's coming-out party, but motor puked. Maybe--just maybe...

Back in March, John Garric's Potez 63 replica was reportedly "close to a first flight". Hard to imagine nobody would've reported it airborne, but...

Don Hansen's Fw 190?

Still haven't heard from Doug what surprise(s) Cavanaugh might supply (hint, hint).



We just have - well, it did get off the ground ;-)

Re: Heads-up Airventure 2012

Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:46 pm


Don't get me wrong - I love the sound of the T-6 and would love to see one land/take off at Orlando Executive Airport while I am working there but will there be less than 50 at OSH? I don't need 50+ texts every time a T-6 lands/takes off. Is there any WWII era plane more common still flying?

Maybe I should have said L-39 or Nanchang CJ-6 in my example of what a noob would text for everytime one of those landed




Didn't realize that T-6's were that well represented at OSH. Although I'd watch each one taking off or landing, I have to agree, that would be a mass of text for each individual T-6 movement.

I think I need to start planning my first trip.
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