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PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:43 pm 
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Interesting that the pilot is not commercial rated. IIRC we had to use commercial rated pilots under our exemption.

There appears to be a bunch of *WTF?'s*: Pilot rating, LODA, Flight Instruction, *required* donations to bypass the regs on paying PAX in aircraft with an Experimental ticket... The FAA are going to have a field day with these guys & then the lawyers will finish them off.



With the correct exemption you can “charge” or “require” a donation to obtain a ride. Usually it is a donation to the museum or entity flying the aircraft. Then a Perk of membership is a ride in the experimental registered aircraft. All within regs it done correctly.

It used to be the case that a museum could have a "membership" and then charge members for rides in the organization's aircraft/helicopters, but no longer. There have been a surge of fatal accidents in recent years involving passenger carrying for compensation or hire - both legally and illegally. Previously, this was a gray area with the FAA kind of "turning their head" in most instances involving the "membership supported rides" program that had been popular for many years. Unfortunately, as is always the case, there was a fatal crash years ago and the FAA shut down all of those programs. So now, if an organization has any kind of "club", "membership", etc. and wants to charge for rides/flights experiences/stick time, they have to have a legitimate exemption, waiver or LOA or LODA under one of the FAA programs. The FAA put out an Advisory Circular a couple years ago which specifically addresses all of this regarding what they consider legal and not legal.

Unless some new information comes out or some of the initial information posted is wrong, it appears that Marpat violated numerous CFR's within the FAA rules. In my opinion, they are going to be absolutely crucified by both the FAA and in the legal system via lawsuits from the victims' estates/beneficiaries.


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Yep,everything is fine until something goes wrong.


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