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Re: Collings Foundation Aquired a Two Place Hun...

Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:31 pm

RickH wrote:JWe certainly appreciate the Cold War jets, but the problem is that there really aren't any viable candidates for restoration.


Rick,

What do you mean by that? There are lots of Cold War jets still around. Do you mean that they have been de-milled/out in the elements too long? Or do you mean there aren't any suitable candidates in civilian hands i.e. not under NMUSAF control??

That reminds me - what was the story behind the guy flying the F-84F in Thunder Bird markings some years back? I read it was confiscated by the Feds and then stuck on a pole in Montana :evil: Barf...

-Derek

Re: Collings Foundation Aquired a Two Place Hun...

Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:57 pm

I'm pretty sure the F84 never flew.

de-milled/out in the elements too long? Or do you mean there aren't any suitable candidates in civilian hands i.e. not under NMUSAF control??


All of the above....

Re: Collings Foundation Aquired a Two Place Hun...

Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:28 am

Im just happy another F-100 will be flying. Although Im not big on the three tone scheme.

Re: Collings Foundation Aquired a Two Place Hun...

Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:34 am

viking73 wrote:
RickH wrote:JWe certainly appreciate the Cold War jets, but the problem is that there really aren't any viable candidates for restoration.


Rick,

What do you mean by that? There are lots of Cold War jets still around. Do you mean that they have been de-milled/out in the elements too long? Or do you mean there aren't any suitable candidates in civilian hands i.e. not under NMUSAF control??

That reminds me - what was the story behind the guy flying the F-84F in Thunder Bird markings some years back? I read it was confiscated by the Feds and then stuck on a pole in Montana :evil: Barf...

-Derek


Derek,

The ownership of that F-84F (52-6969) was in dispute, basically it was unclear how it came into the hands of the person that flew. It was not airworthy too long before the USAF took possession and placed it on display at Malmstrom AFB. While it flew it carried the registration N84JW. It would be neat to see either a plank wing, or swept wing F-84 in the air again.

Re: Collings Foundation Aquired a Two Place Hun...

Fri Feb 25, 2011 3:44 pm

i wonder how long before you can own and fly an f-14 tomcat?

Re: Collings Foundation Aquired a Two Place Hun...

Fri Feb 25, 2011 3:45 pm

i wonder how long before you can own and fly an f-14 tomcat?

Re: Collings Foundation Aquired a Two Place Hun...

Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:52 pm

whistlingdeathcorsairs wrote:i wonder how long before you can own and fly an f-14 tomcat?


never.

Re: Collings Foundation Aquired a Two Place Hun...

Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:26 am

davidbray wrote:
whistlingdeathcorsairs wrote:i wonder how long before you can own and fly an f-14 tomcat?


never.


i'm sure at one time we all thought that you couldn't fly a phantom, f-100, f-86 etc...

Re: Collings Foundation Aquired a Two Place Hun...

Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:35 am

whistlingdeathcorsairs wrote:
davidbray wrote:
whistlingdeathcorsairs wrote:i wonder how long before you can own and fly an f-14 tomcat?


never.


i'm sure at one time we all thought that you couldn't fly a phantom, f-100, f-86 etc...


The difference with the F-14 is the way they were disposed of/ demilled. The Tomcats that were not marked for preservation (through loan from the Navy) are all being/ have been shredded into tiny pieces. The Govt. is extremely paranoid that F-14 parts could wind up with the Iranians/ the "wrong people".

So your only chance to have a privately owned F-14 is to cut a deal with the Iranians, and I doubt the U.S. would ever allow it to fly here. :?

Re: Collings Foundation Aquired a Two Place Hun...

Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:02 am

i thought we still had some in a reserve fleet somewhere? Mothballed, but still able to operate if need be

Re: Collings Foundation Aquired a Two Place Hun...

Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:36 am

No, the F-14s got a different treatment, see TAdan's last post. IIRC, some that were earmarked for museums were later confiscated and destroyed. The Navy has zero intention of ever operating F-14's again, even in emergency. In the case of the new-build D models, sort of a shame since they had a lot of useful life left.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington ... cats_N.htm

Re: Collings Foundation Aquired a Two Place Hun...

Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:20 pm

yeah that sucks. I guess no top gun 2

Re: Collings Foundation Aquired a Two Place Hun...

Sun Feb 27, 2011 7:34 pm

whistlingdeathcorsairs wrote:yeah that sucks. I guess no top gun 2



Not uness Tom Cruise flies an F-18 or an alien spaceship.

My money's on the spaceship. :wink:

Re: Collings Foundation Aquired a Two Place Hun...

Sun Feb 27, 2011 7:47 pm

whistlingdeathcorsairs wrote:yeah that sucks. I guess no top gun 2
Oh Thank God! :finga: I hated Top Gun! lol But it would be nice to see Snodgrass get some F-14s to operate for airshows.

Re: Collings Foundation Aquired a Two Place Hun...

Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:49 pm

He tried right after they retired them. Didn't happen then, never gonna happen now !
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