Warbird Information Exchange

Nathan, what I wrote was about the song and legal dispute between Jasckon Brown and McCain,not about their politics.
It was "Running On Empty".

As for the ME 262, as for as I have read their Mach crtical number was not near Mach 1.

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Bill Greenwood
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Many times people blame lawyers for litigation when they should be blaming the actual parties, and if you check out any of the interviews Browne has given on this topic, it's hard to argue that lawyers put him up to it. P.S., I knew you were joking.

August

Me163 came up to the sound barrier and backed off. Flight controls became unresponsive and nasty vibrations set in. Pilot cut engine and lived!

On April 9th, Hans Mutke hit 1100km per hour and lived to tell, He thinks he got there!
http://www.vho.org/tr/2003/1/Chelain69-71.html
though this site debunks the claim! So who is right?
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/hi ... 198c.shtml

Heh! Wow, the site at that first link isn't biased at all.

August

It is the internet, look at everything with a VERY skeptical eye! You can find opposite, well documented opinions on almost everything!

You mean we really did land on the moon?!

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No, but the ever elusive B-32 did!

Yeah! What Nathan said! (about politics)

And to further this thing off the topic of IP rights....Sorry Fritz (I'm behind ya man! )

I imagine there are several guys that broke the sound barrier before the end of the war and didn't live to tell about it....so it doesn't count.


BTW...I think it funny that this seems to be the subject that gets the most blood flowing...Chuck is the man because "they" say he is...Mustangdriver is right about that. Welch is the man be cause he is!

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Yeah I had thought that same thing. Thanks Zane great minds think alike.

I hope you guys don't think I am bashing CY. Well maybe I was but I don't hate the guy. I just IMHO think some of the history could be corrected. And those that are invovled should live up to trying to do so. Not make money off from it. If that is indeed the case. Thats all.

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The reason it is so important to digital artists is because, unlike traditional painting, there is no physical original, so selling imprinted goods like mugs, t-shirts, etc is a more significant portion of the income a given piece of art generates. Artists like Wade or Stokes or Ferris or others whose brushes I am not worthy to clean can derive a significant amount of income from the sale of their original paintings. Galleries and contests are more likely to accept their work and take it seriously, which helps to build a market for their work. (This is changing, but digital painting is still viewed with some suspicion by many in the field. I can't enter the EAA's annual art contest, for example.)

One of the few real advantages of digital art is the ability to repurpose it for a variety of media...but if I have to compete with the aircraft companies (or pay outrageous licensing fees to them) for access to the calendar and t-shirt markets, then there really is little advantage at all, except for the money I save buying paint.

I haven't joined the Society of Aviation Illustrators (I sort of feel unworthy as yet), but I imagine I could get some helpful advice there.

I will probably just end up doing more traditional work. I've been leaning that way lately.

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I heard a loud boom just an hour ago here, I guess someone broke the sound barrier.

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Chris Henry
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Where you are, it could have been anything. But in the high desert at Muroc in 1947 with an F-86 screaming straight down, it was a sonic boom

Steve G

I dont think mustangdriver can understand the difference between being "Officially First" and being "Actually First". If the question is, "Who does the USAF say was the first person to break the barrier?" then it's Yeager. If the question is "Who is the first person to break the barrier?" then it ain't Yeager. BTW I've met the man several times and each time he has rubbed people the wrong way. We had a dinner (15 ppl or so) with he and Bud Anderson and I would much rather spend time with Bud! Otherwise, he is a veteran, brave pilot, and ace and deserves credit for his accomplishments (just not one of them).

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Taylor Stevenson

Me 109, re fame vs character and manners. I don't know Bud Anderson at all, only know Yeager mostly 2nd hand, but I did know Tex Hill, Alex Henshaw, and Don Lopez. For these men, being famous was not an either/or question to also being gentlemen.

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Bill Greenwood
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I understand the difference but I don't think it is fair to just assume that Welch broke the sound barrier, but then hold Yeager and the X-1 team to a different standard to achieve the same goal. You may not like the guy, but you can not take away what he did.

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