Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:25 pm
Well, I'm still here. Got the boards up and just walked around the block with the dog. Gettin' a little windy but nothig drastic. It's picking up on the coast but we're about 35 miles from Galveston. For those of you who are familiar with Galveston, the 61 st street pier has collapsed from the seawall to the bait house. From the bait house to the T head the pier has been stripped of its walkway boards. 691 st Street is underwater from the Seawall to I45. The Strand District looks like it has about a foot of water all through it. They say that the waves hitting the Seawall looks like the dancing waters at the Bellagio ! I can't believe the Mayor didn't call for mandatory evac until last night !
Winds will be bad, but the big thing is we'll be subjected to hurricane force winds for over 10 hrs if it keeps its present forward speed. Surge will be worse. They say there is a potential for a 27 ft surge in the upper reaches of Galveston Bay which includes near downtown Houston. They are saying maybe 18ft over Galveston. The surge height does not include the wave action on top !
Winds will be bad, but the big thing is we'll be subjected to hurricane force winds for over 10 hrs if it keeps its present forward speed. Surge will be worse. They say there is a potential for a 27 ft surge in the upper reaches of Galveston Bay which includes near downtown Houston. They are saying maybe 18ft over Galveston. The surge height does not include the wave action on top !
Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:05 pm
Until last night Rick, it wasn't clear that Ivan was going to affect Galveston that bad. In addition, the surge looked to be much less until the model runs this morning went from a sub-20 foot surge to 27+.
Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:35 pm
Glen wrote:Get this !!! I work in the Fort Hood area about 130 miles north of San Antonio and their are some people that are leaving this Area thinking that it will be that Bad here ! I guess that if it gets that Bad you you will see me on CNN as the Red Neck carring his complete collection of Air Classic's and War Bird Movie to Dry land
Don't forget the lamp and the ashtray as well.....
Lynn
Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:37 pm
RickH wrote:Well, I'm still here. Got the boards up and just walked around the block with the dog. Gettin' a little windy but nothig drastic. It's picking up on the coast but we're about 35 miles from Galveston. For those of you who are familiar with Galveston, the 61 st street pier has collapsed from the seawall to the bait house. From the bait house to the T head the pier has been stripped of its walkway boards. 691 st Street is underwater from the Seawall to I45. The Strand District looks like it has about a foot of water all through it. They say that the waves hitting the Seawall looks like the dancing waters at the Bellagio ! I can't believe the Mayor didn't call for mandatory evac until last night !
Winds will be bad, but the big thing is we'll be subjected to hurricane force winds for over 10 hrs if it keeps its present forward speed. Surge will be worse. They say there is a potential for a 27 ft surge in the upper reaches of Galveston Bay which includes near downtown Houston. They are saying maybe 18ft over Galveston. The surge height does not include the wave action on top !
What does the surge height mean for LSFM? What all have they moved and what is still there??
Stay dry,
Lynn
Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:57 pm
Lynn,
I'm going to stick my neck out a little and talk about it instead of referring to the CO. From what news 11 just reported, I wouldn't be surprised for the museum to be taking a little water.
Refer to my post earlier today on the aircraft flown out.
The ramp is 9 feet above sea level and Scholes Field airport was getting sloshy early this morning. Last plane out was the Continental Airlines/Lone Star DC-3 that left about 9:30. Museum pres. Larry Gregory signed off then left also.
The museum floor is 11 feet above sea level with the two foot flood shield that's probably been deployed inside the big doors. We can stand thirteen feet surge and take fourteen with damage. Wind-wise, it's all built for a cat 3.
Channel 11 just reported that their weather station atop Moody Gardens hotel across the big parking lot from LS has cratered after an 82 mph gust. Earlier they showed a time lapse of the rising water in the Aquarium Pyramid parking area and it's now lapping at the sidewalk around it, so it's probably not good over at the hangar. Remember this is all just my opinion....I haven't had any actual LSFM news since Larry reported what flew out and then signed off about 9:30
Rick H. good to hear from you. Stay safe.
I'll try to keep this pertaining to Lone Star and not try to be a storm chaser wannabe. There are a number of friends at Lone Star who live in mandatory evac areas.
Anybody else who hears news directly or indirectly through Lone Star people around our aircraft around the region, sing out!
Gettin breezy here too.
Doug.
I'm going to stick my neck out a little and talk about it instead of referring to the CO. From what news 11 just reported, I wouldn't be surprised for the museum to be taking a little water.
Refer to my post earlier today on the aircraft flown out.
The ramp is 9 feet above sea level and Scholes Field airport was getting sloshy early this morning. Last plane out was the Continental Airlines/Lone Star DC-3 that left about 9:30. Museum pres. Larry Gregory signed off then left also.
The museum floor is 11 feet above sea level with the two foot flood shield that's probably been deployed inside the big doors. We can stand thirteen feet surge and take fourteen with damage. Wind-wise, it's all built for a cat 3.
Channel 11 just reported that their weather station atop Moody Gardens hotel across the big parking lot from LS has cratered after an 82 mph gust. Earlier they showed a time lapse of the rising water in the Aquarium Pyramid parking area and it's now lapping at the sidewalk around it, so it's probably not good over at the hangar. Remember this is all just my opinion....I haven't had any actual LSFM news since Larry reported what flew out and then signed off about 9:30
Rick H. good to hear from you. Stay safe.
I'll try to keep this pertaining to Lone Star and not try to be a storm chaser wannabe. There are a number of friends at Lone Star who live in mandatory evac areas.
Anybody else who hears news directly or indirectly through Lone Star people around our aircraft around the region, sing out!
Gettin breezy here too.
Doug.
Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:31 pm
Just got a call from the guys out at Reno, who talked to the Scholes Field airport manager. He's staying in the Moody Hotel next to the museum. According to him he was looking at the top 2-3 feet of the airport perimeter fence, everything else was under water. The museum folks seem to think that there is now several feet of water in the LS museum hangar.
The winds at Galveston are only 45-47 sustained, we've got a long way to go. I'm in Pearland,exactly 7 miles due west of EFD. It hasn't even started raining here yet.
The winds at Galveston are only 45-47 sustained, we've got a long way to go. I'm in Pearland,exactly 7 miles due west of EFD. It hasn't even started raining here yet.
Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:01 pm
Doug and Rick thanks for taking the time to reply. I know this isn't there first goat rope and they have thought of every thing and angle of what would be bet for LSFM. I was just looking at Jeppview and the airport elevation is 6'. I just hate the thought of aircraft underwater. I sure Midland has a open ramp they could have parked a few for the big show later in the month. I wish the best for you all and will keep you all in my prayers tonight....
Lynn
Lynn
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Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:15 pm
Lynn, the aircraft that they could fly, did fly. The others, for various reason are ground bound. Spitfire, F3F, PB4Y-2, B-58, and C-1 immediately come to mind. Tom told me the other day that the aircraft scheduled for Midland would go out early.
They are having problems with fire on the island. Earlier a warehouse at the Yacht Club Marina caught firee. The Fire Dept. couldn't get there because of high water. Turns out it was the dry storage building. it is estimated that 150 boats have been destroyed. They also have a two story house on fire in the middle of the city, the fire dept couldn't get to it because of chest deep water. It has now jumped to approx 11 other structures and they can't do a thing about it, this could turn into the worst single event of the storm.
They are having problems with fire on the island. Earlier a warehouse at the Yacht Club Marina caught firee. The Fire Dept. couldn't get there because of high water. Turns out it was the dry storage building. it is estimated that 150 boats have been destroyed. They also have a two story house on fire in the middle of the city, the fire dept couldn't get to it because of chest deep water. It has now jumped to approx 11 other structures and they can't do a thing about it, this could turn into the worst single event of the storm.
Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:40 pm
That's the news i didn't want to hear but already suspected Rick. The perimeter fence around the museum end of the airport is about eight or nine feet if you count the bob wire on top. If the chap at Moody Hotel is only seeing that, then stuff is floating in themuseum. darn!
Virtually all of the island went dark at once a few hours ago. From what channel 11 said, I'm surprised you still have power Rick. Be careful.
It's been a long day and may be a long night so I'm going to try to sleep.
manana, gang
Doug
Virtually all of the island went dark at once a few hours ago. From what channel 11 said, I'm surprised you still have power Rick. Be careful.
It's been a long day and may be a long night so I'm going to try to sleep.
manana, gang
Doug
Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:26 pm
thanks for sending updates Rick! keep safe down there ya'll hear?!! =-)
Tom P.
Tom P.
Sat Sep 13, 2008 6:45 am
RickH wrote:Lynn, the aircraft that they could fly, did fly. The others, for various reason are ground bound. Spitfire, F3F, PB4Y-2, B-58, and C-1 immediately come to mind. Tom told me the other day that the aircraft scheduled for Midland would go out early.
They are having problems with fire on the island. Earlier a warehouse at the Yacht Club Marina caught firee. The Fire Dept. couldn't get there because of high water. Turns out it was the dry storage building. it is estimated that 150 boats have been destroyed. They also have a two story house on fire in the middle of the city, the fire dept couldn't get to it because of chest deep water. It has now jumped to approx 11 other structures and they can't do a thing about it, this could turn into the worst single event of the storm.
Thanks Rick as we are watching Ch 11 up here in Dallas and its a mess down there. I hope you all are safe and dry.....
Lynn
Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:21 am
Spoke to my Father (lives in Spring) they were off line on the power last night around 10 PM water around 1 AM as of this Am at 7:00Am the Hard land phones were still working .
Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:23 am
AP just said the surge topped off at 13.5 feet - not as high as expected - Fingers crossed for Lone Star!
Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:15 pm
well i was watching it in this morning(about 01:30 ) and the eye was right over the airport, center of the eye hit about 0210. the mjor networks here have been covering it all morning and is still on as of 1317. we are finally getting some rain. oh and its finally been downgraded to a TS.
Sat Sep 13, 2008 4:32 pm
San Antonio didn't even get wet to this point... Which is good for the folks involved in rescue ops as the command center is here in town at Port San Antonio. On the other hand, we really could use some rain. Our winds have even been vastly less than forecast and they're now telling folks from the Corpus area that it's ok to return.
Ryan
Ryan