Hurricane Restoration

Just to put the "welding a hurricane" structure argument to bed. To weld a tubular you have a pretty precise fit of the tubes, a copy of the FAA A.C. 43.13 explains in very detail. The tube on a hurricane would not be long enough to allow welding. Thats not to say the HAWKER fastening system isn't precise. It is.Its just a different system of joining tubes,with different length requirements.
The funny thing is, I think the first person who brought up the idea of welding was asking why HAWKER didnt weld the tubes. And the fireworks began.

The construction of the Hurricane was evolutionary not revolutionary, have a look at earlier Hawker a/c, much of the structure is identical to the Hart biplane. The prime benefit of the Hawker type of construction was in repair downtime, typically, major repairs took days as opposed to weeks for the relatively high tech Spitfire, and required relatively unskilled workers.

HarvardIV
Restoring a Hurricane is several orders of magnitude more difficult than a Harvard for many reasons, availability of data, parts, materials, etc, and the number of individual parts involved(about 5 times as many). As far as your attitude to what constitutes restoration - I can't help wondering - are you a restorer, or just another 'enthusiast' leaving a trail of destruction?
I get the impression you have never been closer than about 50 feet to a Hurricane.

That's a reasonable point, however I'd consider either way as an option.

[Stoney]

After hangaring with a Hurricane for 13 years, I would never ever think of restoring one, a replica, maybe. If I had the time and money I'd make a P-66.

[bdk]

bdk, you fool! It was Bob Diemert!!

Well, Canuckia is a small country. Sorry I confused the two of you.

CLARIFICATION: Ollie is not Bob Diemert in disguise (or his little friend with the Universal Carrier).

Now, who can I personally attack or belittle next on the internet? The Kernel?

bdk, you fool! It was Bob Diemert!!
Well, Canuckia is a small country. Sorry I confused the two of you.

CLARIFICATION: Ollie is not Bob Diemert in disguise (or his little friend with the Universal Carrier).

Now, who can I personally attack or belittle next on the internet? The Kernel?

You can go after Vlado and Stoney at great risk..

[bdk]

You can go after Vlado and Stoney at great risk..

Nah, only if I was posting anonymously!

Ok Guys,

First lets get back to the thread, Peter I've sent you a e-mail and have publicly offer my help so I guess you really don't want to save this airframe. I had a talk with Leo he has know idea what you are up to either so quit playing games now I have a Musuem that would like to have this airframe so they can at least try to get a static build up to rep. the RCAF.

So what are you going to do or do you need me to contact my contacts with in the Border patrol and find out where this is because you and I know I will do this.

So please make some sort of remark or contact.

Rob

Come on Peter, lets get this puppy saved. I have no axe to grind at all, I just love the Hurricane and want to see it saved. Any parts are useful. We all care about restoration and aviation heritage, let us please just get on with fighting against the elements to save it and not ourselves?

To those suggesting welding Hurricane tubing, get real, that is a replica and a cop out!!

[petef86a]

OK Guys,

If its the airframe that I'm thinking of then its going to be a good starting point for a static restoration.

Canadian TD you and i both know how much it will cost to put a wreck Hurrie back into the air.

So anyway nothing is going to happen till Peter decides what he wants to do. He's been given the best offer he can get from Maine and guys before you start saying I'll take it their is a process that has to go on here in Maine for recovery of WWII aircraft you can thank certain people conected with the Maine Air Musuem for that. Rather not go into the Politics of it.

So Peter I await you contact. I'll be home after 6PM tonight feel free to call me or e-mail me or do what i sid go thru Mike C or Leo if you like but lets get this done before we have snow on the ground.

Rob

rohr, this peter is probably talking crap anyway & it doesnt look likely he will contact you or anyone, are you sure the hurri even exists? have you seen it? if so just go take it, i would, beats wasting time with people like this

I guess I never did update this thread. This turned out to be a wild goose chase. The "airframe" was some sort of agricultural equipment with a tubular steel frame. Experimental blueberry picker would be my guess. I referred it to an ag museum here in Maine and moved on to my next wreckchase. I have a statement by a gentleman who has passed on about finding a Hurri inverted by a stream in the 1950s while fishing with a friend. I interviewed him twice, but the other guy (deceased) was the one who knew the location and the place names were all mirrored on both sides of the border, so the lead was not actionable for ground search.

[bdk]

Keep trying! You never know when you'll hit the jackpot, and you'll never win at a game you don't play.

[Michel Lemieux]

Wow......talk about zombie treads....almost 9 years between the posts......and we still here...LOL

[airnutz]

Wow......talk about zombie treads....almost 9 years between the posts......and we still here...LOL

....and found out the rest of the story!

[petef86a]

Scary as it seems, I have been busting brush and finding crash sites for almost 20 years.