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 Post subject: Re: Amelia Earhart Redux
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 Post subject: Re: Amelia Earhart Redux
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Yes, Booji. In the past this information has been suppressed...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRguZr0xCOc

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 Post subject: Re: Amelia Earhart Redux
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This will be interesting to watch unfold...
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CHEYENNE, Wyo. (AP) — A Delaware aircraft preservation group denies a Wyoming man's claim that it found pioneering aviator Amelia Earhart's missing plane in 2010 but sat on the news so it could solicit him to pay for a later search.

Mystery has surrounded Earhart's fate since her plane disappeared in 1937 in the South Pacific. Earhart was the first woman to fly across the Atlantic Ocean in 1932, but many experts believe she crashed into the Pacific a few years later while trying to establish a record as the first woman to fly around the world.

Timothy Mellon, son of the late philanthropist Paul Mellon, filed a federal lawsuit in Wyoming last week against The International Group for Historic Aircraft Recovery and Richard E. Gillespie, the group's executive director. Mellon, who lives in Riverside, Wyo., claims the group solicited $1 million from him last year without telling him it had found Earhart's plane in its underwater search two years earlier.

Mellon's lawsuit says the 2010 search in the waters around the Kiribati atoll of Nikumaroro, about 1,800 miles south of Hawaii, captured underwater images of the "wreckage of the Lockheed Electra flown by Amelia Earhart when she disappeared in 1937."

The suit claims the aircraft recovery group intentionally misrepresented the status of its exploration to Mellon last year, telling him a discovery of Earhart's plane was yet possible if he supported the search. The lawsuit states Mellon contributed stock worth more than $1 million to the 2012 search and accuses the organization of engaging in a pattern of racketeering to defraud him.

Tim Stubson, a Casper lawyer representing Mellon, said Monday that he has viewed the images from the 2010 search that the lawsuit maintains show the wreckage of Earhart's plane.

"As a layman, it is hard to see, unless you know what you're looking at it," Stubson said of the footage, which he said he couldn't share. "Much of it relates to the landing gear and parts that are unique to the landing gear."

Stubson said Mellon engaged experts to examine the underwater images against parts they knew were unique to the Earhart aircraft. He said they reached a "definitive conclusion that that is in fact the wreckage, and it had been discovered two years before our client paid for another expedition."

Stubson acknowledged that the aircraft preservation group might have had more to gain by publicizing a true discovery of the Earhart wreckage. But he noted: "For whatever reason they didn't do that in this case, and they continue to solicit funds under the pretense that they have not found it."

Bill Carter, a lawyer in Boise, Idaho, represents the group, known as TIGHAR, and was a team member on the 2010 Earhart search mission. He said Monday the organization strongly denies Mellon's claim that it found the plane. He said it is raising funds for another search that could occur as soon as the end of next year.

"TIGHAR does not possess any definitive evidence as to the whereabouts of Earhart's Lockheed Electra, and did not conclusively make any discoveries in 2010 which it's withheld," Carter said. "All of its information and its research is compiled and available for public viewing on its website."

Carter said he respects Mellon's opinion but isn't aware of any videographic or forensic expert who has validated his conclusions.

"I have looked at some of the underwater imagery that he's referring to. I was, in fact, present during the 2010 expedition when that imagery was taken," he said. "And I can just tell you that I don't see any of the things that Tim sees in those images."

Carter said he's been a member of the group for 17 years and sits on its board of directors. He said he's been involved in the Earhart search for at least that long.

"I would tell you that there is no financial gain for us in hiding the discovery of the most famous missing aviator in the history of aviation," Carter said. "Just the opposite; we would want to publicize the finding to ensure that we can protect it adequately."


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 Post subject: Re: Amelia Earhart Redux
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It sure will. pop2

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 Post subject: Re: Amelia Earhart Redux
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He donated $1 million in stock. Hello, I have an expedition and a documentary he can fund. :shock:


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for those old enough to remember.......where is the incredible mr limpet?? only he knows as well as his buddy flipper!!.......... pop1 :wink: they probably take dates their to impress them!!

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 Post subject: Re: Amelia Earhart Redux
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Anyone get this guy Mellon's phone number? If he was willing to fork over a million dollars to search for a needle in a haystack, imagine what he might be willing to fork over on something tangible, like getting the B-29 "Doc" up in the air. Or, maybe funding the Memphis Belle or Swoose restorations at the NMUSAF. For my money, I'd rather have something real, like a complete airplane, than some twisted metal that may or may not have come from Earhart's plane.


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 Post subject: Re: Amelia Earhart Redux
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Anyone get this guy Mellon's phone number? If he was willing to fork over a million dollars to search for a needle in a haystack, imagine what he might be willing to fork over on something tangible, like getting the B-29 "Doc" up in the air. Or, maybe funding the Memphis Belle or Swoose restorations at the NMUSAF. For my money, I'd rather have something real, like a complete airplane, than some twisted metal that may or may not have come from Earhart's plane.


I can use the funding to locate to missing PB4Y-1 bombers at Wotje and Chichi Jima.


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get him to fund the recovery of the B-32 from the moon......

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 Post subject: Re: Amelia Earhart Redux
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CHEYENNE, Wyo. (AP) —
Timothy Mellon, son of the late philanthropist Paul Mellon, filed a federal lawsuit in Wyoming last week against The International Group for Historic Aircraft Recovery and Richard E. Gillespie, the group's executive director. Mellon, who lives in Riverside, Wyo., claims the group solicited $1 million from him last year without telling him it had found Earhart's plane in its underwater search two years earlier.


Found it here:
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I know Timothy Mellon and when he decides to sue someone for something, he does not give up very easily. He has the money to do what he wants.


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 Post subject: Re: Amelia Earhart Redux
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The only Mellon I know is Thornton Melon, and he is very rich!

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If that Electra had nose art it would have read 'Cash Cow'.

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I could use some funding. PM me with your donations!


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 Post subject: Re: Amelia Earhart Redux
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Sorry for the late reply on this - but i am a little perplexed why the group looking for Amelia does not use simple magnetmeter technology. I mean the Electra would probably be so broken up and encrusted in coral by now - it would not even show up on sonar as anything other than a chunk of coral.

Plus you can do the magnetometer thing on a thin budget.


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 Post subject: Re: Amelia Earhart Redux
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It seems there is alot of suspicion that they already found the plane. I have no real interest here, but I did notice on the Tighar web site they have the following info -

TIGHAR is expanding the mission of its 2014 underwater search for Amelia Earhart’s aircraft to include vital ocean science data collection. We have broadened the scope of this expedition because the craggy underwater mountainside that may hold the wreckage of the Earhart plane also holds the answers to questions far more important than what happened to Amelia. The unexplored depths off Nikumaroro contain information crucial to understanding climate change, the most serious environmental challenge of our time.

So this could indicate their research goals go beyond Amelia...


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