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Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:42 pm

Martin Caidin's Ju-52 was an authentic German built wheras the CAF's is a CASA 352 as is the one at the Air Force Museum. Incidentally there a a few of these still lying around in Europe derelict if anyone wanted a really neat project.

Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:43 pm

Jerry

Yes you are correct, should have checked first before posting :oops:

Dave

Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:31 pm

Warbirds flown;
1943 Schweizer TG-3A glider
1940 Aeronca O-58/L-3A
Taylorcraft L-2M
Stinson L-5E
1950 Piper L-18-105hp.
1953 Piper L-21-135hp.
Cessna L-19 (3)
Stearman PT-17-220hp. Stearman PT-17-450 hp.
1941 Ryan PT-22A
Fairchild Pt-23
Bucker BU-131 Jungmann
Dehavilland DHC-1 Chipmunk
Yakolev Yak-52
Beech T-34A, T-34B
1943 NAA SNJ-4, T-6D, T-6G
1942 Beech SNB-5
1951 T-28A
TF-51D(both cockpits)
TP-51D(both cockpits and solo)
1943 PBY-5A Supercatalina
Boeing B-17G
Served as crew chief/plane captain
USMC Douglas A-4E and TA-4J
USAF(ANG) 3-level crew chief C-130A
" " 5 & 7 level crew chief C-130-H1
Planes ridden in;
F4U-4 Corsair, TBM-3R, C-2 including traps on USS America, C-5A, C-130H, UH-1H, Me-108(Nord), Cavalier P-51D's (2),

Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:50 am

GIJOE290 wrote:
Stephanie wrote: I couldn't agree more! I see you soloed not too long ago. I soloed back in May '06. Yay! Congratulations! :)
Hey Thanks! Congrats yourself, have you started you X-country? What Warbird are you hoping/wanting to fly in first? :)


Oh man, well - I mean why not aim high? I'd love to fly in a B-17. Love to. Maybe a little more do-able would be a ride in a Stearman, which I think would be a blast. At this point though, I wouldn't turn my nose up at anything! :) The F4U would be my dream plane to fly someday - I adore it!

I haven't done my solo x-country yet. With the area I am in, It's hard to do in less than ideal weather. I have the Cascade Mountain range to my east, the Oregon/Washington coasts to my west and some other issues to battle with - so that's the last thing really on my to do list. I hope to get it finished up soon! I can't wait to get my license!!! :D

Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:12 pm

I have been very lucky through the years:

P51 w/Pete McManus (twice)
P51 Bob Tulius
T6 Bob Tullius
P51 Linda Myers (Weeks Cripes)
Grumman Duck – Kermit Weeks
B24 Collings Foundation
B17 Collings Foundation
Many Stearmans, Waco’s, C47’s

Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:54 pm

The Following post by Larry Kraus was intended to go into this thread but a glitch caused it to start a new thread. I have moved this here at Larry's request. - Scott WRG Editor

Larry Kraus wrote:Well,they were working airplanes at the time,but still technically warbirds,I guess:

Butler Aircraft's B-17 N5237V as Tanker 65

TBM Inc's B-17 N3703G as Tanker 68

Evergreen's B-17 N207EV as Tanker 22

Aero Union's B-17 N9323Z as Tanker 17

These total maybe 900 hours,about half as co-pilot and half as PIC

Numerous models of Twin Beech as freighters,including several ex-military versions for maybe a total of 8,000 hours

R4D-8/C-117D for about 150 hours on the 1981 Alaska Fish Haul

C-119's N6093 and N3003 as c/p for around 10 hours at the end of the Fish Haul

Around 100 hours split between a C-53, a C-47A, and a DC-3A hauling freight

Evergreen's SP-2E Tanker 141 for an hour or so out of Alamogordo to read the analyser,but I got to steer it around for a bit in 1980

A couple of flights in C-54's in the early 80's

One flight in TBM's SNJ in the late 70's

For Mudge,the Critic,I tried to put more space between the Aircraft type,the registration and the tanker numbers,but the WIX computer program compressed them back

Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:47 am

T-6
C-47
C-1A
Stearman.
Taxied in :? B-25,O2

Stephanie,I've never seen a two seat F4U so you better get your ticket quick :wink:

Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:22 am

T-34, Barbers point flying club, Hawaii, 1982-5. Very cool. Got a lot of hours. Bud was a CAP dude outta Alaska doing time in boats. Tried to teach me how to fly.

B-17, 909, went with my brother, way cool

B-24, Dragon and his tail, Best bomber ride EVAH! Next time I'm going with my brother.

T-28B and C, Dan D has given me, I think, over 30+ hours there. I can actually fly and land the plane from the backseat now. Yeah, thats bragging, but when I get my 500 PIC, I am set BayBay! Ron R also let me ride/fly his C a couple of times also. Very very cool. Now ya'll are beginning to get the genesis of the whole T28, way true lifestyle, of the gods...hehheeeeeee

(And, Stephanie, I asked Dan if he would give a ride to "This lady offfa WIX", and he said yes, so, if you want, pm, and we'll find a saturday thats cool. I know its about 200 bucks from PDX to SJC, round trip. Just show up.)

Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:27 am

First flight in a warbird trainer:
T-34 N311 with Frank Sanders back in the late 70's

Warbird flights:
Sea Fury NX20SF Dreadnought w/ Dennis & Brian Sanders (several)

Sea Fury N924G w/ same (several)

Sea Fury N19SF Argonaut w/ same (several)

P-51 N44727 Man O' War w/ Elmer & Brett Ward

TBM w/ Chuck Wentworth

B-25 Pacific Princess w/ Carl Scholl

3 types Ive flown in

Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:55 am

The best and the biggest was an hour flight in an Avro Lancaster! then a 40 min flight in a beech 18. Prior to that about a half hour flight in a Stearman!

Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:25 pm

B-24 all american
p-51 Wee willy[/b]

Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:46 pm

B-23
B-17
PV2
SNJ/T-6
T-28
Stearman
P-51
:D
Robbie

Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:32 pm

Thanks for the infor on the Ju-52.

Stephanie, Keep moving forward on getting that license! And wow, some good choices to pick to wanna get rides in. And hey, it looks like you got a possible ride lined up! YEAH!! :D

Re: Henleys

Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:04 pm

Bill Greenwood wrote:Wade, those Aeroshell boys can fly! I ran into them once skiing at Vail. I know Alan and sort of know Mark from airshows. I saw Alan once land a Mustang at Leeward Air Ranch 3 point and use about half the runway most of the other guys were using.


You're right, Bill. As you know, Alan and Mark are country boys, but don't let their "down home" fool ya. I've flown with them both in different planes, and they can handle an airplane . . . I'd put their stick and rudder skills in high-performance machines up there with anybody you can name.

They got the 'bug' and their early experience from their late father, Tom, who flew his own P-51. The boys still own the kite, but last I heard the engine was in the shop - still. Last time I talked to Mark about it, he mentioned that they want to paint her up in the 353rd FG's Alabama Rammer Jammer markings of George (?) Cundy, an ace, IIRC. I'm too lazy to Google him real quick. That's the name of the 'Bama student newspaper, IIRC.

Mark bases his T-6G at Bessemer, AL; same airport I fly from. Alan keeps his at their farm in western AL, last time I heard. Bessemer is only a 10 minute drive from here, and every now and then as I'm painting I'll hear the unmistakeable sound of one (sometimes more) "Sixes" heading into Bessemer. Luckily the approach path to runway 23 is right over my house, so I'll open the blinds and watch 'em pass over in formation. :D

Wade

Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:55 pm

marine air wrote:Martin Caidin's Ju-52 was an authentic German built wheras the CAF's is a CASA 352 as is the one at the Air Force Museum. Incidentally there a a few of these still lying around in Europe derelict if anyone wanted a really neat project.


I can confirm that most of Marty's was authentic German. I think I heard an outer wing or something else fairly minor came from a CASA.

Now, far as those derelict ones.... Do tell more. PM if ya want.
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