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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:38 pm 
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Am I to take it that you came through Wendover and did not stop to say hello?! LOL - your rig would have made a visit a little to do so.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:50 pm 
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Hey Tom,

We spent the night in Wendover. You may recognize the Beech in the parking lot at the casino in the earlier photo. Nice rooms for cheap! I am sorry as it would have been great to have met you for dinner. By that point in the trip Bernie and I were zausted and went to bed early. The next morning we visited the museum and talked to the nice lady there. We had to get back on the road before we had a chance to talk to the airport manager. They wouldn't let us drive the 14 foot wide load at night in Nevada so we made a dash to get across the border to California before sunset. We made it with 5 minutes to spare. California says its okay to do wide loads at night so we ran the Sierras in the dark.

I talked to the kind lady at your museum about doing Atomic Bomber Camp and she was excited. If we can make it work with the good FiFi and you all Wendover folks the plan would be for a 2013 509th reunion, airshow and Atomic Bomber Camp all in one. What do you think? If it works then lets do it annually until the 70th anniversary of Hiroshima.

A lot of off topic stuff here but I will have a new Harpoon report soon with shots of the new goodies we have installed recently. She is coming along nicely.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:55 pm 
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I just thought I would throw my two cents in regarding the topic on the Twin Beech. My father flew oil crews in & out of a Northern Alberta for Gulf Canada back in the 1970's and he used a Beech 18H (C-FWVY) When the owner lost the contract this Beech was sold and flown to Alaskan where it crashed and killed everyone on it. It was a great airplane, as a youngster I went on many trips in this Beech. Does anyone still do the conversions (tricycle gear)

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:45 pm 
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What I imagine your nose display will look like...well HALF OF the 50's anyway! :shock:
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Cool shot. I found the upper nose for Barbie III a long time ago and sent it to them. It was sitting in a surplus store and was being used for trash. I am always happy to see the nose right where it belongs.

Yes our Harpoon nose will look amazing with twice the number of ammo boxes, feed chutes and guns. Sadly no 75mm though.

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I have set up a donation button through PayPal for the museum and the Harpoon Project. I have the code for the button but I can't figure out how to post it here and its too large for my signature line so here is a link to the Harpoons page with the PayPal donation button:

http://www.twinbeech.com/84062restoration.htm

And now for a long over due update:

On a recent road trip I found a seat that is close to what we need for the radio operators position. It needed soda blasting, painting and matching upholstery. Sorry I didn't get any before or during shots of the process. Since we now have a seat to install it is time to do the radio floor for the seat to bolt to.

Here is our local wild cat that has adopted us as her own. She is nice...at times...but we think she has tourette's syndrome because out of nowhere she will rip you up for no reason...insert female comparison comments here... Sometimes Momma cat will hop into the Harpoon to check out what we are up to. Here she is testing out the floorboard fit in the radio room.

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After the floor was fitted and painted it was secured then the seat went in.

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The black junction box in the lower left is the heart of the AIA-2A interphone system. It was revolutionary so to speak as all of the radios tied directly into it and the pilot, copilot and radio operator had special control panels (one visible at the left edge of the photo) to select one or all of the radios. It is just what we use today in the form of an audio panel. I think the AIA-2 was one of the first to accomplish this.

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The pan like thing just in front of the seat is to catch any hydraulic fluid that might be leaking from the A3A autopilot servos just above it. On the radio operators table is the explosion proof Morse code key that will be bolted to the table in the near future. I also found a junction box (silver box on the radio table) that will work perfectly for the main radio J box. One other interesting feature of this late war aircraft was it had a single switch for a radio master control. All of the radios use a lot of power when running and if your engines are below 800 or so RPM the generators are not on line then the radios will kill the batteries in short order hence the need for a master radio switch or avionics master today. Most WWII aircraft did not have single point radio switch like this and so each radio had to be turned off separately. One more cool little advanced feature found on this late war aircraft that set the standard used today.

Once I get the main radio J box installed and powered we can make the runs to each of the radios and start getting them to make noise, smell and hopefully radio waves. The AIA-2 interphone is key to our plans as it will enable intercommunication and allow everyone to listen to the radios in flight. I sure wish I had a full time electrical guy to start the wiring job. I also need to make a run of cloth covered wire for us and for a bunch of other folks who have been asking me about some.

Next is the radio compass. This is very interesting to me as this Navy aircraft used an Army radio compass set SCR-269G. I would have expected an ARN-7 which is pretty much the same thing but set up for joint Army/Navy. There must have been some procurement issues as this was the same set used in the PB4Y-2.

I made the rack for the receiver (BC-433) and pulled a mount from stock. Cleaned up the mount and bolted it to the rack. Geeze the receiver is heavy but it looks good up there and we now have one more head banger in place

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Here is one of our wonderful volunteers. Mark drives over from Concord to help out with radios. He is putting together an ARC-5 set for a Corsair for his own collection. Since we are getting closer to firing up some of the radios he is opening up the dynamotors to service the bearings. Many of these dynamotors will be used regularly in the Harpoon so making sure the bearings will last is important. Sometimes the 60 year old grease is in good shape and sometimes it isn't so why take a chance. Man they sound good when they spool up. The smell of old electronics is a great thing too and adds immeasurably to the authenticity of a project like this. Having an old timer say "I haven't smelled that in 60 years" is the goal.

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Thanks for your help Mark

The next project was the catwalk or floorboard in the mid body. It is elevated above the bomb bay floor for an alcohol tank. Here is the new board being made from an original as a pattern

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Gotta love nice wood

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Speaking of wood the Navigator's table is a nice woodworking project

The table is a two part piece with a bottom and an opening desk top so you can put the charts and publications away. The bottom is the first part I tackled

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The cut out is for the D-12 master navigators compass . There was a metal hinged cover in the table so the navigator could open it to look at the mag heading without opening up the table. Earlier Harpoons had the compass mounted on the opposite wall which would have been a hassle for the navigator to constantly be referring to.

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The table top was fabricated and the edging fit and installed. You can see the three hinges in the back

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The first of several coats of Shellac goes on with sanding between the coats

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Next is a trial fit and to fabricate the brackets to mount the table

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And the inspector shows up to be sure to keep me straight

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Then the hole is cut in the top for the compass and final fitting. It's going to be a shame to paint over the nice wood!

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The cabin is filling up nicely. Here is the table for the final fit before it comes back out for paint. I still need to make the compass cover and drawer frame to support it.

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The black bracket mounted on the table top is for the Navigator's 'drafting arm' or more officially the "Aircraft Protractor Mark 3B". I have a busted up parts one but I am looking for a good original. Anyone have one in their collection and want to see it installed at the Navigators position in the Harpoon? They sell pretty cheap on eBay for 20 to $30 complete and in the box so I am waiting for another one to show up. There is a nice on on eBay now for $275 :shock: I think he likes it a lot more than I do. There is another on listed now for $99 but its kind of rough and also too high in price. Here is what one looks like:

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Anyone have an Aircraft Protractor that you don't need? I have a great new home for it!

Good steady progress on the old gal. I wish there was more time in the day.

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To donate to the PV-2D project via PayPal click here http://www.twinbeech.com/84062restoration.htm

We brought her from: Image to this in 3 months: Image Help us get her all the way back Image

All donations are tax deductible as the Stockton Field Aviation Museum is a 501c3 nonprofit organization. Tell a friend as the Harpoon needs all the help she can get.

Thank you!

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:54 pm 
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Looking pretty darn good there Taigh. I just sent in a small donation via Pay Pal. Keep up the good work.

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Great stuff, Taigh! I love how you and your team are doing things in such an authentic manner. Very commendable! Cute kitty, too.

Glad to see you have the PayPal account set up. I'll be using it soonly. :D EDIT: You're now $100 closer to finishing!

Coupla silly questions:

1. What kind of lubricant are you using for your dynamotor bearings? I have several dynamotors that need to be overhauled properly and I'm open to suggestions for some kind of modern lubricant that's readily available and doesn't cost a fortune.

2. Just out of curiosity, who made your flameproof key? It's a Bendix design, but they were made by various companies including James Bunnell (CJB26003A), Moulded Insulator Company (CMI26003A), Telephonics (CTE26003A), and others. I have a whole box of those keys, but they're in really rough shape. The JB and MI keys are common as dirt. They must've made a gazillion of 'em. They were still in use on P-3's at least as late as the 1990s.

Rock on, guys 'n gals! (and cat!) :supz:

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:07 pm 
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Taigh, you know what gets me about this project?? You will get people whinging about the exterior lack of paint etc but when you grab them by the arm and show them the interior,m you better have some padding on the floor to catch their jaws! Heck of a great job you guys are doing!!

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Jerry O'Neill wrote:
Taigh;
Might I suggest that there rest of us on WIX start a "Harpoon Gun Fund", similar to what we did for "Ole 97/Diamond Lil"?
I'm willing to donate $100.00 to the cause right now! If others feel so compelled, we might be able to set-it up via PayPal so it would be easy!

What does everyone think?
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PS: Regardless of what happens, the Harpoon will get my donation one way or the other!


Donation happily sent today!
Keep up the good work!!!
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Looks great! Love watching this stuff come together.

Thanks for setting up the Paypal. First installment sent. Hope to contribute more over time.


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Stupid question alert.. Taigh.., sorry.

When you are doing all that work on the inside.., do you 'level' the aircraft? In other words, do you raise the tail so she is level?

This way you can ensure all your 'bits' you are placing inside are nice and level as well.

Or do you use a 'level' with the angle of the aircraft sitting on her tail marked off as a starting point.

OK.., now I have confused myself.

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Funny you should ask about the level thing. I used a digital level to check to be sure that its all straight. On the Nav table the fore and aft is angle is fixed to the bulkheads so if the mounting holes I drilled in the wood table are true then its just a matter of checking it latterly. The Harpoon spar was at 2.9 degrees right wing down so I made the Nav table match that angle. That was shown in the fitting shot of the table held up with the C clamps. Once I had it leveled I would step back and make sure it looked correct.

There are original shots showing the nav table and what looks like an angle between it and the ARC-5 radio rack just forward of it. Once I had the table set to match the spar and I compared it with the period photo the angles matched right up. It looked good so I drilled the mount holes to fix the table in place.

Here is the period shot

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And here is the current shot. Note how the angles look correct between the far edge of the table and the radio rack above it.

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The goal is for us to take a photo of our Harpoon in black and white from the same angle and hopefully it will look just like the period photo. I can see some other differences that will need to be fixed but so far so good.

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Looks good from this angle :drink3:

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Taigh Ramey wrote:
Funny you should ask about the level thing. I used a digital level to check to be sure that its all straight. On the Nav table the fore and aft is angle is fixed to the bulkheads so if the mounting holes I drilled in the wood table are true then its just a matter of checking it latterly. The Harpoon spar was at 2.9 degrees right wing down so I made the Nav table match that angle. That was shown in the fitting shot of the table held up with the C clamps. Once I had it leveled I would step back and make sure it looked correct.


So you do the work with her tail on the ground? (be nice., boys) :wink: This is a clean and fare question!

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Yep, she sits in a three point attitude. The only time we have lifted the tail is for gear swings, weight and balance and once to remove the retardant tank. You would think that since we removed the retardant tank we would be less retarded but I guess that isn't the case...

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What are the odds? The words "she" and "attitude" in the same sentence. :drink3:

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