California Aviation Museums Question

[Roger Cain]

First I've heard of this, never seen one there before, I'll have to swing by there in a few weeks.

[Jerry O'Neill]

Roger;
You can see it on Google Earth, especially if you use the "road" feature. Makes it easy to find.
It's in Viet Nam camo and unfortunately, I didn't take a photo of it last March. Maybe I'll take one this coming May when we're out to work the show again!
Jerry

[Roger Cain]

Thanks Jerry,

I quit driving into that airport because it's so secure, and usually don't see anything anyways. I have a buddy whose an instructor for the JAL pilots there. I'll have him direct me.............

[mrhenniger]

Pardon me if I missed it, but there is an F-105 on Mather Field in Sacramento. It's on the North side of Peter A. McCuen Blvd. just to the east of Mather Field Road, in front of a building.

Found it! Although it is not on the field itself. Does anyone know what the building is it is parked in front of?

Jerry... Thanks for the note. If you don't mind send me your full name so I can add you to the credits. mrhenniger @ AerialVisuals.ca

There is a Banshee at Napa County Airport, pole mounted. At least it was there a couple years ago.

Unfortunately I don't see it. Do you know exactly where? Is it in the business park someplace across fromt the airport? The Google Earth images are not bad, but not great either.

I have uploaded the Mather update. Thanks again everyone. The really is a good cooperative effort.

Mike

[Jerry O'Neill]

Hi Mike;
Full name is Jerry O'Neill.
Airdales is my Flightline Operations company.
Keep up the good work!
Jerry

[mrhenniger]

I have been digging into my notes, and found many entries with information to be confirmed. As a result I have more questions...

#1: Apparently there were a number of airframes displayed inside of a large restaurant known as the Flying Lady Restaurant. I think the restaurant is no more. Where did the collection go?

#2: Is there a Wagons to Wings Museum in Morgan Hill? Was there?

Still no replies on the El Centro question. I will assume for now there is nothing there.

Mike

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[Chris Brame]

Throw in another: There was a T-33 displayed in a park or playground in Guadalupe on the central coast - is it still there?

(I assume you already have the F-86D in Palm View Park in West Covina, right?)

[mrhenniger]

Throw in another: There was a T-33 displayed in a park or playground in Guadalupe on the central coast - is it still there?

I took a look for it, but have not seen it yet. Guadalupe appears to be a small town in the middle of farm country and not far from the coast. You would think a T-33 would stand out. I checked out the parks and found something that is a "maybe"... 34 58 27.66 N 120 34 25.25 W

What part of town do you remember it from?

(I assume you already have the F-86D in Palm View Park in West Covina, right?)

Got it... 34 04 57.07 N 117 55 04.97 W

Thanks!

Mike

[Roger Cain]

Mike, Only have a few minutes before I leave for school, so here's for #1 and #2

#1: Apparently there were a number of airframes displayed inside of a large restaurant known as the Flying Lady Restaurant. I think the restaurant is no more. Where did the collection go?

#2: Is there a Wagons to Wings Museum in Morgan Hill? Was there?

This was both the same museum and collection. There was a large hangar at the Flying Lady that housed both aircraft and vehicles, including a Ford Tri-Motor, Hellcat, etc. When the place shut down, the aircraft and it's contents were sold off to the public, and a few of the planes went to the Wings of History Muesum in San Martin. It was a very sad day when the Flying Lady closed down.

[mrhenniger]

Mike, Only have a few minutes before I leave for school, so here's for #1 and #2

Thanks. That is what I figured. It is nice to confirm.

Here is the latest version of the wish list renumbered...

EDIT: I moved the balance of the list to another post so not to duplicate the remaining mysteries.

#5: I have it in my notes that one of the China Lake B-29s went to someplace in Inyokern. Is this true? If so where exactly is it?

#9: While looking for the F-102 at Fox Field north of Palmdale I came across this colleciton of aircraft... 34 44 31.54 N 118 12 20.49 W One appears to be a large 4 engined transport and the other two a C-119 and C-82. Are these the former Hawkins & Powers aircraft? If so I assume I am looking at an out of date photo.

Mike

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[bluethunder28]

#5 This is the other B-29 that Tony M took. The Navy took her back when Toni just left it at the Inyokern Airport.

#9 It's a private collection that is open to the public. The 4 prop is a C-97. I'll look for my photos. The other planes are from various old fire fighting companies. They also have a B-25 that Hughs once had.

[mrhenniger]

#5 This is the other B-29 that Tony M took. The Navy took her back when Toni just left it at the Inyokern Airport.

#9 It's a private collection that is open to the public. The 4 prop is a C-97. I'll look for my photos. The other planes are from various old fire fighting companies. They also have a B-25 that Hughs once had.

Thank-you sir! The location with the C-97 and others is the Milestones of Flight Museum. I have made the updates to the list...
http://www.aerialvisuals.ca/Locator.html#USA_CA

Here is the latest version of the wish list renumbered...

EDIT: See the most recent post for the most recent version of the wish list.

Mike

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[Roger Cain]

#5 This is the other B-29 that Tony M took. The Navy took her back when Toni just left it at the Inyokern Airport.

#9 It's a private collection that is open to the public. The 4 prop is a C-97. I'll look for my photos. The other planes are from various old fire fighting companies. They also have a B-25 that Hughs once had.

Thank-you sir! The location with the C-97 and others is the Milestones of Flight Museum. I have made the updates to the list...
http://www.aerialvisuals.ca/MuseumLocat ... California

Here is the latest version of the wish list renumbered...


#5: I have added a new entry for the Bakersfield airport. I can't make out the image. What is displayed there? (35 25 43.77 N, 119 02 36.50 W)

#6: Apparently there is an F-84 displayed in Bakersfield. If so where is it?

#7: Apparently there is an F-102 at Fox Field. Where is it?

#8: Is there anything at the Livermore Airport in terms of gate guards and interesting resident aircraft. Is there a B-17 based there?


#11: Is there anything displayed in Los Gatos?

#13: Is there a "Los Angeles County Aerospace Museum"? If so where?

#15: What is "Mitchell Mania Inc" in Santa Rosa?

#16: Where exactly is Aerocafters located at the Santa Rosa airport?

#18: What is at the Nut Tree Airport in Vacaville?

Mike

Mike, your questions get longer and longer.

#5 & 6. Bakersfield used to have the Prototype XF-84H on a pole, which I think went back to the USAF museum. Don't know what is there now.

#7. Has a TF-102 34 44 28.39 N 118 12 19.94 W , KC-97G, C-119, and a Hawker Argosy outside. Inside is a mockup X-15 (?) nose, two XB-70 jet engines, and the old Hughes B-25 s/n 41-13251.

To the east in the park at the entrance is an Apollo module (replica?) behind a plexiglass housing. 34 44 26.17 N 118 12 04.82 W

#8. No gate guards, no B-17 based there. In your google picture was a visiting B-17 on tour selling rides.

#11. There was a plane in a park in Los Gatos, according to a friend, I've yet to go looking for it.

#13. I don't think the name is right, I think it's the California Science Center, as I went to the IMAX there back in the late 1980's and they had an F-104 hanging off the side of the building.

#15. Is a business name as far as I know. The B-25 is registered under that name.

#16. Aerocrafters were located near the CDF station, but appears to no longer be there, as of August?

#18. As in the PM I sent you, outside is a pair of big Lockheeds and a UH-1 belonging to a trade school.

On L Avenue in Lancaster near an Arena, there's a NASA painted F/A-18 on a pole 32 42 08.17 N 118 10 25.02 W

NAS China Lake has 'Snort', a railed jet test bed cockpit on display at the South (?) entrance

Mojave Airport has a Rutan "Scaled Composites Inc. Mdl 143" mounted on three poles within airport fenced property. 35 03 23.61 N 118 09 42.87 W

Now, in question #8 as far as "interesting resident aircraft", when I have a free week or two, I'll start the list, same goes for most of the airports in CA. Unfortunately, most of them, not all, have big fences around them, making access impossible, without a contact.

[mrhenniger]

Mike, your questions get longer and longer.

Don't fear! I finished my first pass through my rough notes. I will incorporate all the good information you have given me here and see what questions I can answer for myself. There will likely be another version of the list, but I don't expect it to be as long.

Mike

[Roger Cain]

Must be getting cold up that way, more free time, less air shows?