Top Gun - Maverick

[maradamx3]

Just like they do with the Star Wars movies. Announcement more than a year in advance.

Standard fare for any "big release" anymore. Also, this week is SDCC (San Diego Comic Con) and so the trailer release is part of that. Kinda like software developers will announce the next 18 months of releases at E3. It gets the hype train rolling and shows the investors that they have a strong slate of products coming in.

Makes sense they tied it in with SDCC as just down the road is KCBBQ, where rumor has it there are more "sleazy bar scenes" in part 2. Clever marketing. Looking forward to it. I don't get caught up in actors, scripts, messages, meaning, etc. It's action, planes, testosterone, women, and just good fun. Need more!

[maradamx3]

So, which carrier is it?

It's the USS Theodore Roosevelt for the scenes with the F-14, they even placed the Tomcat on her deck:

This is F-14A #159631, normally cared for at the San Diego Air And Space Museum's Gillespie Field Annex.

And yes, I think the P-51 is going to blow up the Death Star!

I'd bet this is at the start of the movie, showing him doing a test pilot gig before being called back as the only guy who can go battle the bad guys.
Yeah, I know Cruise does fly a Mustang but wouldn't it be cool to show him at the controls of a corsair off duty, instead?

So is this possibly why the USS TR was moored across the Bay from the Midway when I visited in Feb? Were they already filming or preparing to?

[Joe Scheil]

And from a F-14 guy.....

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[Xray]

I bet his cult is getting a nice cut from his pay check for allowing him to do this.

[Mark Allen M]

His "Cult" wears hats too. "Make Maverick Great Again" ...

[maxum96]

His "Cult" wears hats too. "Make Maverick Great Again" ...

[junkman9096]

And then there's always some guy trying to insert reality into fantasy.
https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/here- ... 1836510893

[Xray]

And then there's always some guy trying to insert reality into fantasy.
https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/here- ... 1836510893

Fair game to point out inaccuracies and errors in a large scale production movie. They claim to pride themselves on accuracy and realism, and in fact spend $1,000,000's trying to do just that. I'm just wondering how they are going to explain a guy who is nearly 60 years old being a top fighter pilot. Maybe he is playing his own son ? Whole thing was just a dream on his deathbed at the end ? Don't know, but I won't be watching for the plot, thats for sure.

Personally I'll wait until it is out on "dvd" before I watch it. I think the guy is a major POS and don't want to put a single $ into the pockets or him or his cult. Also will be able to blow through the many enviable romance/personal scenes that I have no interest in. Come to think of it, never even watched the original movie straight through.

[JohnB]

I like the line where his old CO asks him why he isn't an admiral.

Back when I was a young 2nd Lt. in the mid-80s, our unit had a colonel as the DO, an older guy who flew 105s, and won medals, in Vietnam.
An old school fighter pilot who, it is said, once drive his MG through the patio doors of an officer's club, drive across the dance floor to the bar and asked for drive through service. Had a flameout in a '100 on takeoff at Wheelus and ended up in the Med. A real deal TAC guy...

Our CO was slightly younger, a Vietnam F-4 pilot (and very PC) on his way to general (he made it, I ran into him years later at the Pentagon subway station).
They had a good natured rivalry...especially when it came to Phantom vs. Thud.

Anyway, I asked him why he wasn't a wing commander.

"Well John", he said. "It's because I don't have a picture of 4-star $crewing a goat." .

[CAPFlyer]

And then there's always some guy trying to insert reality into fantasy.
https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/here- ... 1836510893

Other than the fact that about 2/3 of these "inaccuracies" are based on flat out assumptions based on 1/2 second flashes on the screen and not what accompanied the trailer (i.e. the SDCC panel and plot synopsis that have been released), that article is simply someone trying to have a "Hot Sports Opinion". He's right about the helmet and the retirement thing in basic, but he ignores several really obvious possibilities to include why he has the older helmet - he's not been an active fighter pilot until this "special mission" that is alluded to in the trailer and more in the synopsis that says he's apparently leading a "special team" against a rogue nation that is presenting a global-level threat. If this was something "thrown together" at the last minute, then maybe he's not trained on JMHCS and so he used his old helmet since it was available, does work just fine in an F/A-18E/F (the Super Hornets were built prior to JMHCS being an operational thing). You don't need it to actually operate the plane or use its weapon systems - it just makes it easier and more "head's up".

I don't have great hopes for the movie being super accurate, especially considering the inaccuracies of the original, but I don't jump directly to "it's wrong" without giving it a decent chance at proving "it's plausible".

[JohnB]

Chill guys.
The first film was hardly a paragon of authenticity...(flying canopy to canopy with the "MiG", ...improbable story line about freshly minted students rushing to save the day...)

Why would the sequel be any different?I

I've been waiting my entire life for the perfect aviation film...I'm still waiting.
The Right Stuff is close to it...but it can be nit picked to death by any self-respecting pedant.

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[Mark Allen M]

I think the guy is a major POS and don't want to put a single $ into the pockets or him or his cult.

Yet! here you are sounding like a major POS yourself!!! ... It's a safe bet that the guy doesn't give a rats *ss what you think nor does he need a single $ from people like you. Maybe you should save your negative BS for your next ConDon rally where it's better suited.

Ironic these days! ....

I hope he can manage without your support ....

[JohnB]

Anyone with a Mustang (and flies it himself) can't be all bad.

Listen, few of us will ever meet him so he can be as strange as he likes.
It's not likely he's going to marry your sister (or daughter) or move next door, so live and let live.
He isn't hurting me and at least he keeps his political views to himself.
I'd rather see him have a Mustang than be some drugged out Hollywood type spending his money on Lamborghini's and a 300 ft yacht or a villia on Lake Como.

Look at it this way...The paint scheme honors our vets, and note that the fuselage code are not his initials (Personally, I'd be hard pressed to forego that bit if egotism of I had a Mustang and wasn't committed to a historic scheme...)

I might see the film when it comes out, haven't been to a theater in a couple of years and the local place has good popcorn.

[junkman9096]

For all these kind of movies I go in with the idea that its entertainment, not a documentary. Heck, I go in that way to EVERY movie. Captain Marvel wasn't a treatise on F-15's at Edwards AFB.

[Xray]

Anyone with a Mustang (and flies it himself) can't be all bad.

Listen, few of us will ever meet him so he can be as strange as he likes.
It's not likely he's going to marry your sister (or daughter) or move next door, so live and let live.
He isn't hurting me and at least he keeps his political views to himself.
I'd rather see him have a Mustang than be some drugged out Hollywood type spending his money on Lamborghini's and a 300 ft yacht or a villia on Lake Como.

Look at it this way...The paint scheme honors our vets, and note that the fuselage code are not his initials (Personally, I'd be hard pressed to forego that bit if egotism of I had a Mustang and wasn't committed to a historic scheme...)

I might see the film when it comes out, haven't been to a theater in a couple of years and the local place has good popcorn.

Fair points, my main gripe against him is he apparently abandoned his daughter after his ex wife refused to allow him to pimp her out to his cult. Thats his personal life Ok, sick as it may be really none of our business. I always looked at him as a wuss, a pretty boy, as most "ladies men" are. Only film I ever watched of his was Rain Man and props for that, was pretty good and the man obviously can act.