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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 2:43 pm 
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Yagen looked at this airframe some time ago, and we had a lot of pics. It was potentially going to be a static at the museum. It was determined not to be worth any effort.


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CoastieJohn wrote:
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I don't know myself....someone else may though.

Been talking offline with some smart folks who are very knowledgeable on these things. The thought is the various plates on it make it suspect as to the authenticity of it being what it says it is (BuNo 34012).


I was wondering about that since (a) 34012 is a -5, not a -6, number and (b) see the Registry: http://www.warbirdregistry.org/pbyregis ... 34012.html

What's involved with changing a -5 tail to -6? Is it a bolt-on deal?


Here's some more info I received on deciphering the plates (emphasis - not this airframe) and might answer your -5 to -6 question.

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First off, even though it has a tall tail, IT IS NOT A CONSOILDATED PBY-6A......!

BUNO 34012 was one of a batch of 100 PBY-5A machines manufactured under a contract for the USN (BUNOs 33960 - 34059) of which a total of 31 went directly to the USAAF under serial numbers 43-43839 thru 863 and 43-47956 thru 962 as OA-10-COs.

BUNO 34012 "WAS" a former USCG PBY-5A/-5AG machine. It entered on duty with the CG on 02/11/46 and remained operational until 03/21/52, when it was listed as retired & sold as surplus to the needs of the USCG.

Based on my experience with ID plates, it would appear the machine went to the RCAF where it was modified with the replacement of the vertical tail feathers. It also appears the tail mod was completed by Canadian Vickers as the plate shows the type aircraft as a model 28B - - - the internal Consolidated Aircraft Company model designator for their tall-tail PBY-6A model. It also appears that the basis for the mod was based on drawings provided by Consolidated. Additionally, the "Vickers' Plate" displays the approval stamps of the CV and RCAF inspectors. Canadian Vickers Limited was a major producer and modification facility of the Canadian PBY machines with their airframe types identified as PBV followed by the model number.

The next plate indicates that the aircraft was modified in Atlanta, GA by CONVAIR, or an agent of same in March 1955. This mod most likely consisted of the de-militarizing of the entire airframe (removal of nose turret, waist blisters, addition of the rear air-stair, and other items the new owner(s) desired.

The next plate, in Spanish, was most likely added to the airframe by the Colombian Air Force after they became the owner of the machine. The date on that plate indicates the year 1994.


CoastieJohn, I've always been intrigued by this Catalina, but this is also the first I've heard of a Coast Guard background of this particular plane. Is there anymore information on this plane that would include its service in the Coast Guard? And I just noticed, you mentioned above that you put an emphasis on the info not being to this airframe? Is this because of its questionable identity?


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CoastieJohn, I've always been intrigued by this Catalina, but this is also the first I've heard of a Coast Guard background of this particular plane. Is there anymore information on this plane that would include its service in the Coast Guard? And I just noticed, you mentioned above that you put an emphasis on the info not being to this airframe? Is this because of its questionable identity?


The airframe BUNO 34012 was indeed a CG airframe at one time. I do not have anymore info on that BUNO when it was under USCG ownership other than what I posted. I would have to ask around or someone else can pipe up. As I mentioned above, I was speaking with a couple of different knowledgeable folks offline and there was some question regarding this particular airframe and it's BUNO. I do not want to speak for them beyond what I said as it may not be in good form. Maybe one of them will read this and offer their view on the airframe.


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