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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:08 pm 
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I think I need to add to the thread that my comments were partly in jest, and partly in truth. First off, I AM flying a whole lot more and checking in a whole lot less. One WIXer who was at the airport I'm flying at today could attest to that. Second, I'm not about to jump ship. Third, I have noticed a trend that I hope really does reverse. There ARE some good things happening, especially like the Cobra Den efforts and others like them. I just think that there has been a lot of attrition as evidenced by guys like Tulio. That was more my point. Sorry for having gotten into an argument over the deal. That wasn't my intent.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:39 am 
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Once again, thank you one and all for your opinions and points of view.

I don't actually know what to say, other than, I will probably return in the future, but not now. Please do not misunderstand me, because I am not trolling for compliments or for people to ask me to return; those who know me, are very well aware that I am a no B.S. individual, and I call them as I see them, so I am not seeking to play the prima donna.

I would guess burnout would be a good term to explain something of what has been going on. Reading on a daily basis the same stuff from people who probably have never flown an airplane, or have been involved in restoring, maintaining of supporting anything, grinds one down more than I would have thought it could.

But, as I pointed out, I was becoming part of the problem rather than a solution, and in my way of doing things, leaving was the healthiest thing I could do.

I am still doing the PT-19 parts chase, and I have added BT-13 parts [including a data plate] to my hoard, and thus, although not electronically active, the aviation / warbird bug is alive, but somewhat dormant.

Wishing you all, the best.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:49 am 
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What is sad is that anyone's reduced participation in WIX is part of a viscious cycle. The fewer that post, the fewer that read, the less interesting the threads, and so it goes.

Seconded.

The internet isn't 'real life' but it's a good means of keeping up with what else is going on. So it should come after your own activities, but before (say) switching on the idiot box of an evening, IMHO.

Tulio, your return will be welcome.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:53 am 
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Sad to hear that you're in self- imposed exile, but I imagine you will rise up on WIX again one day. Until then, take care and enjoy life... :drink3:

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Sorry to hear of your burnout Tulio. I've always enjoyed your unique and rare photos from interesting places. Hope you come back soon...

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:38 pm 
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IMHO, this WIX forum is suppose to be equal with everyone. But, in the past the history buffs and non pilot people get roughed up at times. Some think this forum should just be for pilots. :( I can't say I feel like I can contribute much as with many others on WIX who deal with flying or restoring them and that makes one feel out of place at times. I talked about this with Zane yesterday cause I know of a few WIX'ers that feel the same way and just don't post much anymore. It tends to be overwelming with all the information on here. I tend to be easy going on WIX just chewing the fat. But with the forum I run I am very professional and I don't post unless I have something worthwhile to add.

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I've really come to see that I don't contribute anything other than hot air and animosity when I post about politics or religion, or self righteously vent over my favorite causes. I wound up feeling as dumb as my words sounded the last time I got into a p1ssing match with a fellow WIXER. :oops:

My sincerest apologies to everyone I have so engaged, as well as to those who have read those of my posts that belonged elsewhere.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:54 pm 
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After reading more into some of the other posts that I skipped. I am coming to realize that some are probably directing their negative attitude towards threads such as I posted about color dislikes, authentic warbird markings, and other HISTORICAL discussions. I am actually offended by this. This forum deals with history and details about these warbirds. I enjoy talking about details and I don't understand why some get offended by them? None of my posts or others are meant to be negative. Just trying to start an interesting discussion. Scott is the boss here and if there is something not within the subject lines of WIX he would get rid of it. As far as I remember Scott told me personally this place is for everyone that has an interest for warbirds and aviation history. I have done my share of contributing, including trying to help Scott gain more monthly donations, I donated a large sum to the HAG B-23 project, I volunteer at Geneseo when I can, and I research early WWII subjects. All in all its not much really compared to everyone else here and I admit that. WIX is a great place because so many people willing to share their projects and flying with us. I don't take that for granted. Sorry for the rant but really it is bothering me a lot when people bash others that might not be up at a higher level as others and think we don't have the right to discuss our likes and dislikes. Also don't care for the comments that only pilots and professionals should post on WIX. Not cool at all. This is something I really couldn't keep quiet about and I am sorry for downgrading this thread as I will admit that. I just had to get it out there. Nothing against Tulio or anyone. Thanks.

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After reading more into some of the other posts that I skipped. I am coming to realize that some are probably directing their negative attitude towards threads such as I posted about color dislikes, authentic warbird markings, and other HISTORICAL discussions. I am actually offended by this. This forum deals with history and details about these warbirds. I enjoy talking about details and I don't understand why some get offended by them? None of my posts or others are meant to be negative. Just trying to start an interesting discussion. Scott is the boss here and if there is something not within the subject lines of WIX he would get rid of it. As far as I remember Scott told me personally this place is for everyone that has an interest for warbirds and aviation history. I have done my share of contributing, including trying to help Scott gain more monthly donations, I donated a large sum to the HAG B-23 project, I volunteer at Geneseo when I can, and I research early WWII subjects. All in all its not much really compared to everyone else here and I admit that. WIX is a great place because so many people willing to share their projects and flying with us. I don't take that for granted. Sorry for the rant but really it is bothering me a lot when people bash others that might not be up at a higher level as others and think we don't have the right to discuss our likes and dislikes. Also don't care for the comments that only pilots and professionals should post on WIX. Not cool at all. This is something I really couldn't keep quiet about and I am sorry for downgrading this thread as I will admit that. I just had to get it out there. Nothing against Tulio or anyone. Thanks.


Nathan, where in the world did you get the impression about any of what you wrote? Nobody, as far as I can tell, has bashed any of the thread topics, said anybody not involved in warbird activity is not worthy to post, or said that pilots or professionals only should post on WIX. Restricting this forum in any of those ways would be a HUGE mistake. Everybody is equally important here, and everyone has something to bring to the table. This forum is only as good as it's participants and the thread topics will be guided by it's members. A lot of people tend to post threads in the wrong forum or sub-forum and get flak because of that. Are you misinterpreting that for the "negative attitudes and thread-bashing"?

I don't know, did I miss something in another thread that makes you feel this way? I'm just curious, because I have not seen anyone suggest anything of what you wrote above. Is somebody PM-ing you with these?


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:58 am 
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hi warbird1,

I got a pm and was told this thread was not directed towards me. Sorry about that. :oops: But there has been some comments in past threads/shots at warbird buffs. I will not waste my time trying to find them. Me and and another wixer just feel there is some negativity toward non pilots around here.

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Are you misinterpreting that for the "negative attitudes and thread-bashing"?


I thought it was directed towards the thread I started about disliking colors. Some took that thread as people bashing warbird owners and that really was not the case. I am sorry to those that took it that way.

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First off, Tulio, I fully understand "burnout"... people get to that point all the time. I've always enjoyed your posts, and look forward to your future contributions when you decide to return more frequently.

Nathan: I am going to phrase this as gently as possible, but I still feel it should be said... you seem to take offense far too quickly to things. I know you greatly value this community, and you are certainly a valued contributor, but it would serve you well to learn how to shrug off perceived slights from warbird owners or what have you. I'm not a warbird owner or operator, I'm a historian and modeler but this is still one of my top five go-to forums because of the quality of information here as well as the quality of people and depth of knowledge. When I see a snarky or offensive post from someone with obvious social dysfunctions, I just scroll past it, or consider that thread "lost" and wait to see what else gets posted- there's no sense in me arguing about it or complaining about how that made me feel, because if that person had taken two seconds to think about how their comments would be perceived, they likely wouldn't have said it in the first place. So if they can't take that time to learn the basics of polite communication, I can't be bothered to teach them.

I've learned the hard way that getting all worked up about what some fool said on the Intarwebs will quickly lead to headaches and unnecessary worries. Learn how to take the good and leave the rest from any discussion, and I think you'll find yourself less offended more frequently. :)

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Me no pilot :shock:

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I've learned the hard way that getting all worked up about what some fool said on the Intarwebs will quickly lead to headaches and unnecessary worries. Learn how to take the good and leave the rest from any discussion, and I think you'll find yourself less offended more frequently. :)



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Might be interesting to know how many of those homeless refugees like me from the old Warbirds Worldwide forum still post here. It seems such a long time ago now that Scott was good enough to provide us a home which ultimately grew into the WIX it is today.

Membership of forums ebbs and flows, people's involvement ebbs and flows. new people join and in joining may change the nature of the forum, meaning that existing members find that the forum no longer meets their own needs or aspirations.

In essence it's the cyber world reflecting the real world. It's just a fact of life and is probably not worth too much contemplative navel gazing. When individuals are ready or when the nature or specific focus of the forum changes again, as it inevitably will, , they'll come back if they want to.

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