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When Hollywood Ruled The Skies - Volumes 1 through 4 by Bruce Oriss


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Well, he sure ain't gonna do it in a stock Mustang. They are some of the slowest airplanes in the field at Reno.

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Fastest Hollywood celeb flying backwards, blindfolded? I do not like his on-air persona, but would guess a lot of it is put on for the "role" he is playing! The TV teaser is rather misleading as to what is actually going to happen on the episode. If one is out to break a record, doing it in a Two-Place Mustang! um, just how does this work? Perhaps he is trying to beat a Tom Cruise record!!! :lol:

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man, he's going to MASTER a P-51 in a couple of days. what skill. :roll:


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to late after reading there was no way to hold on to my lunch.... :vom: :vom:


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That must be all true, it was written by this guy: David Sandler is the Science Advisor for 'Jesse James is a Dead Man', and President and Co-Founder of StrengthPro, Inc.

If you can't trust a "Science Advisor," who can you trust? So Gary, do the pilots actually fly on instruments during the races without looking outside the cockpit???? :shock:


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"The P51 Mustang was the pride of the American Air Force in World War II flying countless missions before being decommissioned in the 1980s."

Wow, I didn't know the "American Air Force" decommissioned the P-51 in the 1980's. Silly me, I thought they last flew in the 1950's. I was alive back then, how come nobody told me about the P-51's in the boneyard at Davis-Monthan in the 1980's.



"Besides the obvious dangers associated with flying, in regular flight, ejection is an option in the worst case scenario. Not that ejecting ensures saving lives, but it beats the alternative. The problem: at low level altitude you cannot eject. For that matter, even small mistakes mean huge consequences. The real challenge: the P51 must fly the course at only 50 feet of altitude."
Wow, I sure hope that Jesse gets checked out really well in those P-51 ejection seats! But he has just a split second to react to hitting the ground, so, on second thought - never mind about learning the seats.




"The real challenge: the P51 must fly the course at only 50 feet of altitude. And at 325 plus mph, the plane will travel nearly 2 football fields every second. The super cool, relaxed and confident Jesse uses his instinct, sight, and feel to navigate his vehicles. Since this is Jesse’s first time trying to pilot a plane on an unfamiliar course, memory is not even a consideration. Teaching Jesse to trust his instruments and keep his eyes on the dials rather then ground will be his toughest test yet."

Wow, thank goodness that Jesse is looking solely at his instruments and NOT at the ground. Those instruments will surely tell him about all of the hills, valleys and peaks below him roaring by at 50 feet.



"Considering these issues, racing around a track where the plane is almost perpendicular to the ground, makes the possibility of spatial disorientation a huge concern, especially for someone who is used to using his instinct and visual perception."
Wow, not only is Jesse going to be breaking speed records with no flying experience, but he's going to be doing it "almost perpendicular to the ground". I guess he will be pointing nearly straight up and down during portions of the course. Doesn't he know the plane will go faster if it is parallel to the ground rather than perpendicular?



"Since it is unrealistic for him to spend hundreds of hours in a plane working on his skills, we set up the only test we know that could challenge him. Take away his sight and have him navigate a truck at night using instrumentation only. This “crash course” in piloting without visual references, proves more of a challenge than Jesse anticipates."
Wow, relying on instruments only at 50 feet above the ground. If that isn't a "crash course", I don't know what is? That will sure teach him how to crash! :)


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And just who is providing a P-51 for this? I'd like to know... maybe they'd let someone with a little more aviation experience try as well. I can give them a bridge back East in trade...

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And just who is providing a P-51 for this? I'd like to know... maybe they'd let someone with a little more aviation experience try as well. I can give them a bridge back East in trade...

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It was the TF named "Lady Jo". I believe that Dan Vance flew him around the course for the taping. All of the details are in the AAFO threads that Hacker quoted earlier.


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So Gary, do the pilots actually fly on instruments during the races without looking outside the cockpit???? :shock:



How the heck am I supposed to know??? My eyes were closed the whole time I was racing around the pylons! :shock: :lol:

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"The P51 Mustang was the pride of the American Air Force in World War II flying countless missions before being decommissioned in the 1980s."

Wow, I didn't know the "American Air Force" decommissioned the P-51 in the 1980's. Silly me, I thought they last flew in the 1950's. I was alive back then, how come nobody told me about the P-51's in the boneyard at Davis-Monthan in the 1980's."

Well, not to be a stickler,but, didn't the Dominicans operate Mustangs well into the early 80's? So technically, this would be correct.


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Will everyone have their popcorn and barfbags ready for the Sunday airing of this "masterpiece"?! :shock: Is it supposed to be a action-packed drama thriller or a comedy? :twisted:

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Perhaps this will become the sequel to "The Defender" as far as cult status in the aviation community is concerned? :lol:

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Not to break the hate Jesse convoy here, but he has been a race fan for years. I have sat next to him at Reno, in general admission, and away from the media he is actually a cool guy. Like the OC family, the persona on TV is NOT the real person.
He did'nt fly Lady Jo by himself and there was no danger to the plane or him other than what is normal for an experienced pilot on the course.
What seems to be forgotten is the hype used by Spike (and any "reality" based show) to get people to watch. They pump a non-event into a near death experience to get viewers.
I'm just glad a little publicity is happening for the races. They need all they can get.


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Jesse C. wrote:
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"The P51 Mustang was the pride of the American Air Force in World War II flying countless missions before being decommissioned in the 1980s."

Wow, I didn't know the "American Air Force" decommissioned the P-51 in the 1980's. Silly me, I thought they last flew in the 1950's. I was alive back then, how come nobody told me about the P-51's in the boneyard at Davis-Monthan in the 1980's."

Well, not to be a stickler,but, didn't the Dominicans operate Mustangs well into the early 80's? So technically, this would be correct.


I've already considered that, but because it mentions the "American Air Force", it implies that they operated them into the 80's not the Dominican Republic. It doesn't make the distinction, so the average ignorant viewer will not know the difference.


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