Fri May 15, 2009 8:28 am
Chris Brame wrote:Does the F-105 still have its engine mounts intact, or were they de-milled? And where are the others from Camp Bullis?
Don't know the answer to the first question...yet. I believe the others from Camp Bullis are at the Texas Air Museum in Slayton, TX.
Gary
Fri May 15, 2009 8:47 am
One of the 105s and a 101 wound up at a Junior College at Roswell, NM.
Fri May 15, 2009 1:23 pm
67Cougar is right on. I grew up watching the NJ ANG fly the F-105B in the mid-late 70's through their conversion to the F-4D in the early 80's (and eventually KC-135's in the late 80's after I'd already left for college). Those B-models are probably one of the reasons I ended up in aviation.
You can spot a B model by the tiny black radome in comparison to the big 'ole dome on the D, F, or G. Not aware of any B's flown in combat but, as stated, the Thunderbirds flew the B-model for a short time - six shows, I believe, in 1964. Structural failure and a fatality led to the team returning to the F-100. I was told that most, if not all, of the former T-bird airframes ended up with the NJ ANG at McGuire.
Ken
You can spot a B model by the tiny black radome in comparison to the big 'ole dome on the D, F, or G. Not aware of any B's flown in combat but, as stated, the Thunderbirds flew the B-model for a short time - six shows, I believe, in 1964. Structural failure and a fatality led to the team returning to the F-100. I was told that most, if not all, of the former T-bird airframes ended up with the NJ ANG at McGuire.
Ken
Fri May 15, 2009 1:26 pm
I beg to differ. Look at the picture at this
http://www.hdc-nm.com/jimi/f105.html and you'll see the enlarged spine of the 105 in question. Page down to the section "Up on her Feet" and you can see it has an enlarged saddle on the hump.
http://www.hdc-nm.com/jimi/f105.html and you'll see the enlarged spine of the 105 in question. Page down to the section "Up on her Feet" and you can see it has an enlarged saddle on the hump.
Fri May 15, 2009 1:32 pm
Pogmusic, those are photos of different airframes. The "TH" tailcode was the Carswell unit flying the D-model - some of which were Thunderstick-modded.
Fri May 15, 2009 1:39 pm
I thought that link came from the A/C that were removed from the field. Granted the one remaining may be a 105B. I was refering to the removed a/c. Sorry.
Vodoo
Sat May 16, 2009 10:54 pm
I think the 101 is a B model. Two seat type for ADC complete with "fishbowl" IR antenna
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F 101
Sun May 17, 2009 9:58 pm
The F 101 in the picture is a B model which was a two place air defense interceptor. The recon version was a single seater, RF 101
Mon May 18, 2009 9:34 am
The Voodoo is definitely a "B" model. I just aired up the tires and moved it yesterday. We tried to move the 105, but we couldn't get one of the tires to air up. They're gonna try again today.
We're having to move them because the airport is getting resurfaced, and naturally, they're wanting to start on the ramp where the jets are.
But I've worked a little deal with the Texas Air Museum and there'll be a couple changes with the status of these two jets....hopefully for the better. I've taken on the task of prepping the 105 for it's eventual public display. The talk is that they're gonna put it on a stick at the front of the airport, but we may just leave it on the ground. That's all still being ironed out.
I'll give details on the 101 later.
Gary
We're having to move them because the airport is getting resurfaced, and naturally, they're wanting to start on the ramp where the jets are.
But I've worked a little deal with the Texas Air Museum and there'll be a couple changes with the status of these two jets....hopefully for the better. I've taken on the task of prepping the 105 for it's eventual public display. The talk is that they're gonna put it on a stick at the front of the airport, but we may just leave it on the ground. That's all still being ironed out.
I'll give details on the 101 later.
Gary
Mon May 18, 2009 9:38 am
Good news for old airplanes from Gary!
You old softy...
You old softy...
Mon May 18, 2009 9:50 am
That's great news Gary! Please keep us posted.
-Derek
-Derek
Fri May 29, 2009 1:26 pm
Well, I didn't want to post anything until all the documents were signed, but since that happened today, here's the latest...........
FOR TRADE: 1959 McDonnell Douglas F-101B, Voodoo, S/N 59-0429. One owner, low miles. Only flown to church on Sundays. Tires have been aired up and the aircraft has been towed, so wheel bearings are fine. Needs minor buffing to qualify for "Best Voodoo" award at International Vintage Jet Show. All trades considered.
Well, as you can see, I've gone and acquired myself a Voodoo now. The paperwork to sign possession of the aircraft over to me has been completed, so I'm ready to see who out there might be interested in working a trade. The Voodoo however, will still technically belong to the National Museum of the U.S. Air Force. We read the paperwork over and over and over, and I still believe that I could've obtained the aircraft outright, but the NMUSAF has set a precedence by proving that they don't care what something says on paper and will take back anything they want. And since I clearly cannot afford that kind of legal battle, just getting it signed over as a permanent loan is good enough for me. I do, however, have the authority to sign over possession of the aircraft (as a permanent loan) to whomever I work a deal with. So, if you know of a museum, eccentric individual, or whoever, that just "has to have" an F-101 Voodoo, let me know and we'll see if we can work something out.
Gary
FOR TRADE: 1959 McDonnell Douglas F-101B, Voodoo, S/N 59-0429. One owner, low miles. Only flown to church on Sundays. Tires have been aired up and the aircraft has been towed, so wheel bearings are fine. Needs minor buffing to qualify for "Best Voodoo" award at International Vintage Jet Show. All trades considered.
Well, as you can see, I've gone and acquired myself a Voodoo now. The paperwork to sign possession of the aircraft over to me has been completed, so I'm ready to see who out there might be interested in working a trade. The Voodoo however, will still technically belong to the National Museum of the U.S. Air Force. We read the paperwork over and over and over, and I still believe that I could've obtained the aircraft outright, but the NMUSAF has set a precedence by proving that they don't care what something says on paper and will take back anything they want. And since I clearly cannot afford that kind of legal battle, just getting it signed over as a permanent loan is good enough for me. I do, however, have the authority to sign over possession of the aircraft (as a permanent loan) to whomever I work a deal with. So, if you know of a museum, eccentric individual, or whoever, that just "has to have" an F-101 Voodoo, let me know and we'll see if we can work something out.
Gary
Fri May 29, 2009 1:42 pm
Sending PM 
Fri May 29, 2009 4:14 pm
CrewDawg wrote:I'd be curious to know what the S/N of the F-100 is? My dad used to be a crew chief on F-100's (it runs in the family I guess). Just a one in a million shot that it's one that he might have worked on.
Oh no man way better odds than that really better than 2300 to 1!!
Gary
Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:20 pm
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