Re: Where can you See a flying...
Fri May 02, 2008 1:43 pm
Myles wrote: Occasisonally one or two will fly over Charles M. Schulz airport in Santa Rosa
The Snoopy guy?
Last edited by lestweforget on Fri May 02, 2008 2:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Fri May 02, 2008 2:46 pm
Yes it is!
Fri May 02, 2008 2:50 pm
Wow. You learn something new every day. Liked that Red Baron song when I was young 
. Going to have to try and find out why it is called that now. Inquisitive mind...
. Going to have to try and find out why it is called that now. Inquisitive mind...
Fri May 02, 2008 3:46 pm
warbird1 wrote:Rick, Perot's airplane is actually a T-38, not an F-5. Even though the airframe has an F-5A nose on it, the rest of the airplane is a T-38. It has all of the characteristics of the T-38, and none of the F-5. Typical F-5 traits include: leading edge flaps, bigger air intakes, wing strakes, beefier landing gear, tip tanks, and hardpoints for external stores, etc.
I don't think that is the case. I believe that Perot bought the Ft. Wayne/Hoffman T-38/F-5 bash. If that is the case, it is a T-38 front section with a F-5 rear end. So while it has a T-38 wing and T-38 intakes, the engines and mounts are from an F-5. I have no idea where the F-5 nose story came from.
RickH wrote:I was going off of what I was told, that Perot's plane was a CF-5. I know that he was involved with a T-38 that turned out a little dicey for him. Apparently the VFW that sold it to him didn't realize that didn't hold clear title !
Rick - I wonder if Perot's T-38 issues were with other airplanes. Didn't one of the them go to a Texas Museum and is now hanging from the roof?
Perot is one of the guys involved with the recent CF-5 deal. I always assumed the T-38 bash included CF-5 parts, but many web references say the rear end came from a Norway F-5. I'm pretty sure Ft. Wayne got one of the infamous Carlaw CF-5s and the other is with Mr. Smith in Montana, but I'm not 100% sure.
Jim
Fri May 02, 2008 8:39 pm
I read that the NMUSAF was going to prosecute Jr. until he agreed that while the aircraft in question was pretty far along in the restoration process, it would never fly. It was assigned to a museum where it now hangs from the ceiling. Could that be the Frontiers of Flight example ?
As to the rest, I have NO idea !
As to the rest, I have NO idea !
Sat May 03, 2008 12:02 pm
CAPFlyer wrote:F-102 - none flying
A-37 - South America. Several Air Forces have them.
F-105 - none flying
EB-66 - Honeywell has a pair still flying, can't remember where from
RA-5C - none flying
RF-101 - none flying, much less finding one in a museum
HH-3 - There's one flying at airshows across the nation. There was a thread on it last month I think.
F-8 - none flying
F-5 - There might be a few overseas, but I'm not aware of any stateside
CH-21 - none flying
A-7 - none flying (yet)
Not quite on the H-21 not flying
http://www.rotors.org/h21/21.htm
Sat May 03, 2008 12:09 pm
There's at least one other H-21 flying, I think based in Arkansas. The restorer/owner just passed away recently.
Sat May 03, 2008 1:58 pm
Jerry O'Neill wrote:tulsaboy wrote:There's a two-seat F-5 here in Tulsa, owned and flown by Roger Hardesty.
Isn't a two seat F-5 a T-38?
Jerry
You'd think so, but it's not just a T38...
There are an F5, 2seat F5 & some T38's flying out of Van Nuys
Sat May 03, 2008 2:25 pm
With regards to the Crusader, what ever happened to this one? http://www.warbirdregistry.org/jetregistry/f8-145592.html
P.S. Still think that Charles M. Shulz is the best name I have ever heard of for an airport. That rocks
P.S. Still think that Charles M. Shulz is the best name I have ever heard of for an airport. That rocks
Sat May 03, 2008 2:52 pm
What about the A-2 / AJ Savage? Any of them around?
Sat May 03, 2008 3:22 pm
The only Savage I have heard of is the one at Pensacola (130418.) It was flown there some time ago and it is on outside display. Would be interesting to find out if there are any more survivors.
Sat May 03, 2008 3:49 pm
bilwor wrote:This photo was taken at Marana Regional Airport just north of Tucson on 4/17/08 on the day the Collings tour arrived. The enlargement is not too good but the aircraft on the left does look like an A-37 to me. Any opinions are welcome. I don't know any more about it, but it does look like it may have flown in.
bill word
This could be the same aircraft. Picture was taken at Avra Valley, Tucson in 2002. It was being restored at the time.
Sat May 03, 2008 5:14 pm
The HH-3 is still flying in Italy. Find a video on this page:
http://www.pozefilm.de/helicopter.html
The F-5 is still active with the Swiss Air Force. See a video done at the Axalp shooting range here:
http://www.pozefilm.de/military.html
The F-8 Crusader is virtually still flying on my video done at RIAT in 1999:
http://www.pozefilm.de/classicjet.html
Enjoy,
Manfred
http://www.pozefilm.de/helicopter.html
The F-5 is still active with the Swiss Air Force. See a video done at the Axalp shooting range here:
http://www.pozefilm.de/military.html
The F-8 Crusader is virtually still flying on my video done at RIAT in 1999:
http://www.pozefilm.de/classicjet.html
Enjoy,
Manfred
Sat May 03, 2008 5:27 pm
lestweforget wrote:The only Savage I have heard of is the one at Pensacola (130418.) It was flown there some time ago and it is on outside display. Would be interesting to find out if there are any more survivors.
One more surviving hulk at the range at NAS Fallon, another 2 hulks on the range at NAS China Lake.
You'd have to dance around the unexploded ordanance toget to them tho..