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Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:35 pm

The full scale glass fibre Hawker Typhoon replica is at the Memorial de la Paix, Caen - France-

One source I found said that it had been reconstructed from some original components. The markings are:

BR*S
JP656
184 Sqd

Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:18 am

Lest we forget the efforts of the cockpiteers...

Roger Marley's Tiffy

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Typhoon prospects

Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:38 am

It may be of interest to know that a VERY substantial stock of Typhoon parts currently exists in the UK in the hands of a collector. This cache includes all the elements required to put together a complete fuselage from the tail through to the spinner, including prop, all the system parts required, and a large quantity of unused Sabre spares. A quantity of wing structure and hardware is also present.

Whether anything hapens to the project in the short term remains to be seen, but more and more parts are being acquired all the time. The stumbling block is of course a viable Napier Sabre (well, at least two). There are many more out there than the previously mentioned five engines, and, contrary to rumours, the late versions were darn good engines and certification should not be an issue. That said, no one can deny their complexity.

The last time I saw the project (a couple of weeks ago), the tail section was in a jig although work had yet to start. If anyone knows of any Typhoon or Tempest parts which may be available, or even more importantly any Sabre material, please PM me and I'll pass on the details.

George

Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:25 am

Well, the possibility that we may see one flying sometime in the future "does" exist. I listened to the Napier Sabre on the web hit. Whoa! You can relly hear that air intake (I think that is what is makink the distinctive whoooooo sound when your in full power) In low idle you almost expect a bulldozer to come around the corner! The size of that thing looks like it came out of one. Well let's face it the Brits did a h@ll of a job on the merlin, and if the War had lasted much longer the Napier Sabre in-line might have been the next level in recips but along came the turbine. Thanks Guys
Greg Hawkins

Re: Typhoon prospects

Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:02 am

chippie51 wrote:It may be of interest to know that a VERY substantial stock of Typhoon parts currently exists in the UK in the hands of a collector. This cache includes all the elements required to put together a complete fuselage from the tail through to the spinner, including prop, all the system parts required, and a large quantity of unused Sabre spares. A quantity of wing structure and hardware is also present.

Whether anything hapens to the project in the short term remains to be seen, but more and more parts are being acquired all the time. The stumbling block is of course a viable Napier Sabre (well, at least two). There are many more out there than the previously mentioned five engines, and, contrary to rumours, the late versions were darn good engines and certification should not be an issue. That said, no one can deny their complexity.

The last time I saw the project (a couple of weeks ago), the tail section was in a jig although work had yet to start. If anyone knows of any Typhoon or Tempest parts which may be available, or even more importantly any Sabre material, please PM me and I'll pass on the details.

George


Thanks for that, George.

Any chance on some pics?

Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:44 am

Ah ! Pics from the RAF at Hendon museum... got similar ones too. Great airplanes into which many Canadians fought.

Here's a picture of the Napier Saber engine from the National Aviation Museum of Canada in Ottawa:

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Very complex engine with indeed a bad reputation...

And a piccie of the Tempest at Hendon:
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And a Sea Fury at the NAM, again in Ottawa:
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Re: Typhoon prospects

Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:10 pm

chippie51 wrote:It may be of interest to know that a VERY substantial stock of Typhoon parts currently exists in the UK in the hands of a collector.
George

Chippie51, welcome to the WIX! NOW THAT'S AN ENTRANCE!!!! :shock:

Bless the collector and his Brit packrat buddies and their teasippin' little hearts! :prayer: I'm d*mn near rapture right now! :heart: :heart: :heart:
Pictures! Pictures! Pictures!...Please!

Typhoon Prospects

Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:40 pm

I'll ask permission of the owner to post a few photos. I understand the aim at the moment isn't to rebuild a Typhoon as such, the aim is to continue gathering parts and once (if) the Sabre situation is cracked to commence work at that stage. I fully understand this approach - without a converter of avgas into noise up front there's no real point throwing money at rebuilding what would otherwise be a very expensive boat anchor.

George

Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:42 pm

sgt hawk wrote:I listened to the Napier Sabre on the web hit. Whoa!

Pure aural sex to the ears of a motorhead! :heart:

Since I was a kid I really liked the pugnacious bulldog look of the Sabre-powered
Typhoon and Tempest. The data on the Napier H-24 was impressive, but until I heard
the soundfiles on that website years ago, I didn't really have a clue...I became an H-24 fanatic that day! :D

I'm glad you and others enjoy the Sabre as well Greg! Dogged blind faith is what it takes
to keep these memorable machines alive and emerging. Without it we wouldn't have
warbirds today. Keep the faith!

Re: Typhoon Prospects

Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:02 pm

chippie51 wrote:I'll ask permission of the owner to post a few photos.

the aim is to continue gathering parts and once (if) the Sabre situation is cracked to commence work at that stage. I fully understand this approach - without a converter of avgas into noise up front there's no real point throwing money at rebuilding what would otherwise be a very expensive boat anchor.

George


I fully agree George..and the owner has my best wishes in this endeavor...and if I had the $$
he'd have bucketloads from me if that's what it took to assemble the team to
make this happen! This is one of those cases where another engine won't do! 8)
Ya'll keep collecting parts and knowledge and I'll keep buying Lotto tickets! 8)

WOO HOOO...Happy Happy Joy Joy!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:24 pm

Thanks alot guys for the input on this blog. It's so tough to realize that both the US/Brits (and most everybody else) so quickly destroyed these aircraft after the War. But, just maybe, they missed enough pieces to get one back into the air? I know that with today's technology that replication is certainly possible, but the $$ cost is prohibitive. So many considerations! If enough of us become aware, we can get it done. Man I would just love to hear one of those monsters bearing down on you with that big air scoop sucking air, gives me the chills just thinking about it (you know the poor wermacht grunts were soiling themselves). Let's stay with this, maybe we can help!
Greg Hawkins

Re: Typhoon Prospects

Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:53 pm

chippie51 wrote:I'll ask permission of the owner to post a few photos. I understand the aim at the moment isn't to rebuild a Typhoon as such, the aim is to continue gathering parts and once (if) the Sabre situation is cracked to commence work at that stage. I fully understand this approach - without a converter of avgas into noise up front there's no real point throwing money at rebuilding what would otherwise be a very expensive boat anchor.

George


George

Do the parts come with any identity (serial)?

Dave

Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:53 pm

Feel free to flame me (as I realize I'm toying with sacrilege here), but in the absence of a Napier Sabre why couldn't a substitute engine be used to get a Tiffy airborne?

If Allisons are being used to make Yaks and Fw-190D's go today, couldn't a Tiffy get airborne with, say, a Griffon?

(Asbestos suit on)

Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:32 pm

Unless "Bouble" is the guy the canopy is named after, I believe it's BUBBLE.

Mudge the bubbley :partyman:

Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:59 pm

Sounds similar to the parts that Ted Sinclair used to have i.e a cockpit frame of a Tempest V and the rear fuselage of a former Indian Tempest
which was left over from the TFC rebuild of the Tempest II for the IWM.
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