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Sat Oct 20, 2007 12:38 am

Joe Scheil wrote:Ummmm. Isnt a Superbird a Roadrunner at some point during its life?

Would it not be correct to say that all Superbirds are Roadrunners, but not all Roadrunners are Superbirds?


It's similar to the Mustang issue...All Superbirds are of the Road Runner body, but with a different engine, different suspension, etc. The Superbird is far rarer and desireable. Same goes of the '69 Charger and Daytona.

Hence the heretical idea of "converting" a P-51A into a B, C, or D.

Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:24 am

How much of the "A" was left when Moon Spillers built it up originally? From what I seem to hear, it's mostly "D" parts with an "A" front end and Data Plate.
Is this true?
Anybody have the definitive answer on the percentages?
Jerry

Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:30 am

Jerry O'Neill wrote:How much of the "A" was left when Moon Spillers built it up originally? From what I seem to hear, it's mostly "D" parts with an "A" front end and Data Plate.
Is this true?
Anybody have the definitive answer on the percentages?
Jerry


Well, according to an old Warbirds International article on the restoration the fuselage (and tail feathers I assume) as well as the wing came from a D model. All the cowlings were purchased from someone converting an A model to a B model which, again I assume, must have been John Paul. Lastly the canopy was NOS from somewhere. So, aside from the data plate and possibly some fittings and whatnot it does not appear that much of what came off the mountain is flying in "Polar Bear". I would be interested in learning what original A model parts may be on the airplane beyond the cowlings and canopy as well.

PS - I also wonder if the cowlings had to be modified to fit the deeper D model fuselage of if the fuselage itself was changed to match up to the cowlings?

Sat Oct 20, 2007 12:46 pm

And here she is...

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Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:06 pm

Randy Haskin wrote:.........All Superbirds are of the Road Runner body, but with a different engine, different suspension, etc. The Superbird is far rarer and desireable. Same goes of the '69 Charger and Daytona.



Randy , actually the engines & suspension of the Superbirds & Daytonas was the same as the H/D Hi-Po option offered on all B-bodys. It was nearly all just different panels on the cars.

Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:20 pm

Flat 12x2 wrote:
Randy Haskin wrote:.........All Superbirds are of the Road Runner body, but with a different engine, different suspension, etc. The Superbird is far rarer and desireable. Same goes of the '69 Charger and Daytona.



Randy , actually the engines & suspension of the Superbirds & Daytonas was the same as the H/D Hi-Po option offered on all B-bodys. It was nearly all just different panels on the cars.


Just the same, the GTX was different than the Roadrunner was different than the Superbird...just as all the models of the P-51 are still P-51s with different flavors of engine, cockpit, armament, etc.

It's still a valid analogy, I think.
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